Sumthing strange about the PAC/MARQUEZ 2 fight.

[Floyd Senile]

Pac wasn't drained, he was laying the same old blame on the Manny Pacquaio excuse train. And thats lame!!!

[BennyST]

Nah, it was just he was more cautious because of his last fight with Marquez. Also, as will very often happen, when he was caught and hurt in the first round it made him a bit more wary to wade in without caution.

I don't agree with the weight issue at all. He fought a hard, fast and great fight for twelve brutal rounds and you simply can't do that if you are weight drained. Oscar was weight drained, Pac was not. He might have looked thin at the weigh in, but he often does and he made the weight first time, spot on with no problems and rehydrated a ton right after to a very high weight which also shows no signs of weight drain or ill effects.

Great fighters never look as good against other great fighters. They look great against good fighters and fighters who play into their style, but like most counter punchers, Marquez is hard to look good against. That's why he is so good.

What's funny is the people that ***** and whine when anyone says that Oscar was weight drained and they come back with the old "No, he wasn't Pac was just so good." Of course when he fights a great fighter and doesn't look so crash hot himself suddenly he's weight drained? He looked better in that fight than he had in most of his fights previous to that and fought hard, twelve fast rounds. If he had been exhausted by the sixth or seventh round and not throwing, then I could understand, but when you look at a fighter that is actually weight drained and then at Manny and his previous fights, you can see he fights better, it just happens that it's against a better opponent. He also got hit with some serious body shots throughout that really hurt him and you can see him wincing from quite a few really hard body shots which would have contributed a lot.

But, this is one of those fights which anyone claiming the 'weight drained' thing is just a daft wanker. A guy doesn't fight as good as ever or even better and be weight drained. A guy doesn't throw a ton of punches across a brutal, hard twelve round fight if he is weight drained nor does he come on stronger towards the end of the fight if he is weight drained.

[Puntoyhauf]

i found a link
After having great difficulty making 130 lbs against Marco Antonio Barrera last October, Manny Pacquiao’s weight, far ahead of his March 15 rematch with Juan Manuel Marquez, might just turn out to be a weighty issue.

Pacquiao did make the weight, and beat Barrera in 12 rounds. But shortly after, even Pacquiao said that should be his last fight at 130 lbs. — until the doors opened for a rematch with Marquez.

“Yes, he can,” assured one Pacquiao’s many advisers, Wakee Salud, who added that making the weight for what could be the Pinoy boxer’s last fight as a super-featherweight shouldn’t be a problem.

Still, Pacquiao is bent on moving up in weight, and according to his promoter, Bob Arum, up next for the 29-year-old brawler is WBC lightweight (135 lbs) champion David Diaz in June or July or even Ricky Hatton at 140 lbs in November.

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=39612

so, pac was already having a little problem making 130 since his 2nd fight against barrera

This is also what I've heard, Pacquiao also waited for so long for Barrera and him to meet again.. I remember that after Pacquiao fought Morales and then came Morales-Pacquiao II...Barrera was at that time trying to lure Pacquiao into a rematch and set an ultimatum.. but Pac was set for the Morales fight at the time... And when Marquez decided to fight for a rematch... Pacquiao acknowledged it.

After Pac-JMM 1 fight, Pacquiao wanted an immediate rematch, JMM was offered more than $500,000 or $900,000 I think. But JMM decided to fight Chris John instead for $30,000.

[Kevin Jesus]

The problem was Marquez countering him over and over and over again.

[rao007]

im wondering, do you know when did pac or his team said hes moving up to 135 or struggling a little to make 130?

Before the Marquez fight--he commented that he planned to move up to 135 and 140.

[Glamour Puss]

Nothing wrong with him *******.

JMM just knows how to keep that ass in check.

THATS IT. Quit trying to steal JMM"s thunder w/ this "weight drain" bull****.

NOW SHUT THE **** UP!!

[S.G.]

It was the way JMM controlled the range.

[civicvx]

He was healthy, very healhy. Why do you think Marquez was following Pacquiao to his corner? Because he wanted some of that health.

[rsheker]

maybe ariza forgot to give him the secret stuff. ask papa mayweather?

[CrackYourJaw]

Yup, JMM was that something.

Dude's a beast at 130.