If JMM v PAC 1 never happens??

**LeftHookDonaire** · 05-10-2009, 01:43 AM

Originally posted by andrew14

if this fight never happens is jmm will be well known today and/or pac?? or they never meet.

instead of pac who else will put jmm to shadow stardom?

can jmm put his name to lb 4 lb status beating Derrick Gainer, Marcos Licona, Manuel Medina, Hector Javier Marquez, Robbie Peden, Orlando Salido, Victor Polo, Chris John(he lost to this guy), Terdsak Jandaeng etc and a close match with MAB, J. Diaz and Casa. will he be number 2 lb 4 lb??

pac beats 2 EM and 1 lost, 2 MAB, D. Diaz, Solis, Larios, Velasquez, ledwaba etc latest bouts are Hatton and ODLH. without Jmm can he be lb 4 lb number 1??

Nah JMM name will never be heard.

**andrew14** · 05-10-2009, 01:55 AM

bumper

when manny shines. jmm shines too. its like a mirror.

hope that the 3rd match will materialize between jmm and pac eventhough jmm will lose to pbf.

**Pullcounter** · 05-10-2009, 01:56 AM

losing to pac is jmm's greatest acheivement.

**trainhard_187** · 05-10-2009, 02:04 AM

People might as well take Pac's wins over Marquez out of his resume anyways since no one thinks Pac beat Marquez. So if we did take both fights out of Pacs resume, Pacquiao still becomes P4P while Marquez is making his name fighting a washed up Barrera. I doubt Marquez moves up to LW sooner then he did since the only reason he moved up to LW was to get that 3rd fight with Pac. Not saying Marquez nevers moves up to LW but for sure he doesnt do it sooner then he has. Marquez should thank Pac for giving him recognition in their close fights and also letting Marquez chase him up to LW. Without Pac, Marquez would still be at SFW fighting guys like Soto, maybe John, Guererro. Also without Pacquiao NO WAY MARQUEZ CONSIDERS A MAYWEATHER FIGHT. Thats for damn sure.

**trainhard_187** · 05-10-2009, 02:07 AM

Originally posted by Pullcounter

losing to pac is jmm's greatest acheivement.

losing/close fights either one. Pac helped boost Marquezs career. Pac without Marquez would of still been P4P 1 cause no one really gives Pac those that win anyways.

**nujabes77** · 05-10-2009, 02:08 AM

with the talent and skill jmm has got, he would not have needed pac to be a success

**andrew14** · 05-10-2009, 02:09 AM

ahaha!

any anti pac post or mexican post over here???

**Obusv477** · 05-10-2009, 02:30 AM

If that fight didn't happen Pac wouldve taken longer to improve in his technical deficiencies....and would've probably lost to Morales even more decisively.

**the-Q** · 05-10-2009, 02:35 AM

I'm just glad that I had the chance to watch 2 great elite fighters(Manny & Juan) in their prime of their career. I've watched all the greats (Ali, SRL, Mr. Duran and others) only on tapes.

I don't think Manny or JMM would been this great or got the fame without fighting each other.

Hopefully the 3rd fight would happen before JMM retires, remember JMM is 35yo.

If JMM v PAC 1 never happens??