Call me crazy, but I think Paul Williams stops Froch

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  • BG_Knocc_Out
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    #31
    Froch by KO in late rounds. Williams has work rate, but thats all he really has over Froch. Froch may be slow, but he defense is only lacking during his own combinations, in which, Williams is no counter puncher. Taylor is much more defensive than Williams, which is the reason Taylor was able to survive most of the fight. Everytime Winky actually felt like counter-punching, he was successful, and if Froch threw back, he'd rock Paul around. Paul has no head movement. Froch is a much bigger opponent than anybody Paul has faced, and is extremely powerfull. You guys act as if Paul has great power for his size only because he's been teeing off on smaller opponents his whole career. Frochs main vulnerability is a counter right hand, but he doesn't have to worry about it because Paul's a southpaw. Froch leans toward the back right when he's under attack, which makes it alot easy to avoid a straight left of Williams. Plus a right hook won't do well either because, like a said, the way Froch leans when he's under attack would nuetralize most of Williams right-hooks because it will slide off his shoulder instead of a direct hit. Froch loves to protect himself with the left side of his shoulder, thats how he's perfected that low left handed style is because his first reaction is to cover himself. I don't see how you guys think Williams will win on sheer work-rate. I see Froch landing giant right-hands and uppercuts on Williams all night. Froch will definitely land the more effective shots, Williams does not have the power to hurt Froch. Williams is no Taylor, that's for sure.

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    • Parody
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      #32
      Originally posted by timba1988
      Yeah, but does he have strong punch resistance against a big puncher at SMW? No one knows. But I doubt he can campaign any higher than Middleweight. The guys at SMW are too big and too strong.
      Yes, guys like Bute and Abraham would beat him but not Carl Froch. Styles make fights man, you dont see me using the "Because Williams dominated Winky and Taylor drew with him" logic, because styles do make fights, and Williams wins this one. Froch also hasn't fought a good southpaw yet, and they are often hard to fight/figure out. Froch struggled against a southpaw called Brian Magee and it was a fairly competitive fight until the end of 9th round, Williams is worlds better than Brian Magee.

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      • Dubious-Dutch
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        #33
        Originally posted by mathed
        Bro, there would be no contest. Calzaghe is too quick, adapts too well, has a much higher workrate. In the very, very, least, he would embarrass Froch in route to a 10-2 UD and coast easily because he has the technical ability to do that stuff; Froch is not on the same skill level.
        I never said Froch would beat Joe. It is impossible even to think of a way Carl could pull it off. He isn't a one punch knockout artist and wouldn't land enough IMO to Knock Joe out.

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        • Parody
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          #34
          Originally posted by FraudMayweather
          Williams took your plastered punches


          I think its fair to say Williams has a good chin and takes well to the body, Margarito is a decent body puncher. The thing is Williams has a better chin than Ouma or Spinks IMO...who both have decent chins too.

          If Ouma's workrate troubled Taylor, imagine what Williams workrate would do, oh and yeah they are both southpaws (Ouma & Williams) difference being, Williams is taller at 6'2, and has a much better reach. Also has the edge in speed, stamina and chin department IMO.
          Last edited by Parody; 05-10-2009, 02:25 AM.

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          • 2501
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            #35
            Williams is too busy, tall and long for Froch. Froch is what, 6'1? Williams is really 6'3-6'4. I havent seen enough from Froch to say that he can fight backwards or defensively.

            I'm sure he'd pop Williams with some good shots, but Williams seems to have an iron jaw. Williams is great with ring movement as well. He provides too many angles for Froch to counter with. Froch doesnt appear to have the athelticism to deal with what Williams can provide.

            Would be interesting if it happened.

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            • -Swizzy-
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              #36
              Originally posted by 2501
              Too much work rate. Would totally wear down Froch and stop him in the 10th. Froch's skillset isn't high enough to keep Williams from tagging him and staying in close.

              If I were Willy, Id want this fight.
              I'm calling you crazy... crazy for thinking that froch would last 10 rounds against williams.

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              • mathed
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                #37
                Originally posted by DeafCon
                I never said Froch would beat Joe. It is impossible even to think of a way Carl could pull it off. He isn't a one punch knockout artist and wouldn't land enough IMO to Knock Joe out.
                Thought you were implying he could beat Zags...I can't see that...sorry for the confusion!

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by ~Tunney
                  I think Williams would likely defeat Froch by decision.

                  Unlike Taylor, Paul has strong punch resistance and he doesn't fade in the late rounds.
                  Does he have such strong punch resistance against a strong 168 lber? Doubtful.

                  Give Williams a chance to prove his chin at 160 against someone other than Winky Wright before you compare his punch resistance to Taylor's.

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                  • mrpain81
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                    #39
                    Crazy for sure.

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                    • Dubious-Dutch
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by mathed
                      Thought you were implying he could beat Zags...I can't see that...sorry for the confusion!

                      YOU DON'T WANT TO **** WITH ME!

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