If Floyd Destroys Marquez...............BY KO

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    #41
    Originally posted by Rocky=Ward
    I dont know guys... i have a feeling this fight is going to be closer than people expect... i just have this gut feeling that marquez has a chance in this fight.
    I hope it is a close fight.

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    • SkillspayBills
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      #42
      Originally posted by sandyvahra
      Manny is an example that weight didn't matter & the underdog came through, yes. But where did the adage "A good big man beats a good little man" come from? Yes remarkable fighers have been able to come up in weight and beat bigger guys based on skill, but this particular fight hell no. JMM is not as skilled in any facet. Add to that he is much older, slower, weaker, etc. This should be nothing short of a total domination by Floyd.

      You're #5 is way off. Im a bigger fan of the sport than hugger/hater of any fighter. Ive already said I think Floyds skillset is phenomenol & I want to see it tested. I'll go on record now saying a fight with Pac, Cotto or Mosley (which for the record i want to see them all) are more legacy defining and mean more on Floyds resume. I've never posted anything about wanting to see Floyd lose, only that he should fight the best & that's clearly is 1 knock.

      When you see a talent like Floyd and you see him barely crack peoples top 50 ATG theres a problem there. Floyd has all the talent to be a top 5-10 ATG, I admit that. I'd love to see it. But what he's done so far resume wise is disappointing. Escpecially when you look at active fighters today who have shown the warrior heart and willingness to fight anyone.
      You are doing it again. I bolded that text because THAT IS THE REASON FLOYD WILL BEAT HIM. JMM's age didn't stop him from (arguably) winning his last 3 fights two of which by KO. Now all of a sudden it is a major factor? JMM has never been knocked out in his career, so if Floyd doesn't KO him brutally he is a failure? We EXPECTED Manny to lose against Oscar, that's why his win was hyped so much. Who thought Oscar would beat Floyd? Only those who didn't pay attention to skills thought that ****. EXPECTATIONS frame fights, if we expect Floyd to beat all these fighters, and he does, at the end of the day it wouldn't be good enough. ALL I am saying is if you want to address this **** PLEASE USE FACTS. You don't become an ATG beating nobodies for your whole career. Saying he hasn't fought anyone (I could rattle off the list but that would be a waiste) is a farce. To say he hasn't tried to fight a majority of those fighters is a farce. I TOTALLY agree he should fight those fighters the fans say he should I won't even rebut that comment all I am saying is DO NOT NEEDLESSLY hate and call him a ***** and this and that without addressing what ACTUALLY happened. If he fights those 3 we mentioned I expect you to give him the full credit he deserves, if he doesn't I will be the first one to through a brick through the *****'s window.
      Last edited by SkillspayBills; 05-09-2009, 06:45 PM.

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      • sandyvahra
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        #43
        If im labelled a hater because I want to see a guy fight the best out there, then label me a hater. Floyd has underachieved thus far. Guys like Hopkins, Mosley, Oscar, Pac, Morales, etc why are they so loved? Because win, loss or draw they'll fight them all. For god sake look at their resumes. They're not on Floyds level as far as skill goes. But ****iness/arrogance aside if Floyd just fought the best I think that would settle most peoples beef with him. (including a lot of the media).

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        • Orion
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          #44
          Well Hopkins resume is 2nd to none i agree with that part.

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          • BROOKLYN CESAR
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            #45
            Floyd beat Gayla hoya at his natural weight and knocked hatton out while hatton was undefeated, so how does pac make him look bad???

            If floyd is to beat JMM it wont be as easy as people are saying!!! JMM has proven himself in floyds absence to be one of the top P4p fighters in the world, if not thee very best!!! Floyd will be a bit rusty and a guy like JMM could take advantage of this fact, so i cant see this fight being a tuneup to tell u the truth!!!

            Floyd will need to be sharp for this one!!!

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            • sandyvahra
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              #46
              Originally posted by SkillspayBills
              You are doing it again. I bolded that text because THAT IS THE REASON FLOYD WILL BEAT HIM. JMM's age didn't stop him from (arguably) winning his last 3 fights two of which by KO. Now all of a sudden it is a major factor? JMM has never been knocked out in his career, so if Floyd doesn't KO him brutally he is a failure? We EXPECTED Manny to lose, that's why his win was hyped so much. Who thought Oscar would beat Floyd? Only those who didn't pay attention to skills thought that ****. EXPECTATIONS frame fights, if we expect Floyd to beat all these fighters, and he does, at the end of the day it wouldn't be good enough. ALL I am saying is if you want to address this **** PLEASE USE FACTS. You don't become an ATG beating nobodies for your whole career. Saying he hasn't fought anyone (I could rattle off the list but that would be a waiste) is a farce. To say he hasn't tried to fight a majority of those fighters is a farce. I TOTALLY agree he should fight those fighters the fans say he should I won't even rebut that comment all I am saying is DO NOT NEEDLESSLY hate and call him a ***** and this and that without addressing what ACTUALLY happened. If he fights those 3 we mentioned I expect you to give him the full credit he deserves, if he doesn't I will be the first one to through a brick through the *****'s window.
              Never called Floyd a B8tch. Never said he hasn't fought anyone. 130, 135 i cant argue with his competition. But above that, everyone can. JMM won his last 3 fights with guys that engage. What about the Chris John fight? I never said Floyd would be a failure if he didn't KO JMM. Im saying he wont get much credit regardless of outcome legacy wise. JMM matches up perfectly to Floyds style. Counter puncher vs. EXCELLENT counter puncher.

              About the 3 other opponents, it's not about framing because they would all be good fights & i can promise you the odds will be close for either of those 3 than any fight Floyd's has in 5 years. For me, that's what it comes down to.

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              • Orion
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                #47
                Originally posted by BROOKLYN CESAR
                Floyd beat Gayla hoya at his natural weight and knocked hatton out while hatton was undefeated, so how does pac make him look bad???

                If floyd is to beat JMM it wont be as easy as people are saying!!! JMM has proven himself in floyds absence to be one of the top P4p fighters in the world, if not thee very best!!! Floyd will be a bit rusty and a guy like JMM could take advantage of this fact, so i cant see this fight being a tuneup to tell u the truth!!!

                Floyd will need to be sharp for this one!!!
                Gay La Hoya sure had fun with that guy in your avatar

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                • SkillspayBills
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by sandyvahra
                  If im labelled a hater because I want to see a guy fight the best out there, then label me a hater. Floyd has underachieved thus far. Guys like Hopkins, Mosley, Oscar, Pac, Morales, etc why are they so loved? Because win, loss or draw they'll fight them all. For god sake look at their resumes. They're not on Floyds level as far as skill goes. But ****iness/arrogance aside if Floyd just fought the best I think that would settle most peoples beef with him. (including a lot of the media).
                  I have to disagree with that sentiment. The hate from Floyd ORIGINATES from their dislike of him personally. Me, I don't give two ****s how someone feels about a fighter I don't know. If you say something about Danny Jacobs I will kick your ass(Brooklyknight) but about anyone else go ahead it doesn't affect me. They call him ****y, talks too much, this and that and that original feeling of dislike births the criticism of everything that is Floyd. If you want to see Floyd fight the best because........**** that's what the best should ****ing do, we are in the same boat. If you want to see him fight those fighters because you want to see him lose, you are a hater. If you defend Floyd from fighting the best simply because you are a stan, eat a **** you **** hugging bastard(I am speaking in generalities here bro not to you specifically). Both sides basically need to chill the **** out stop taking this **** so personally, and let the chips fall as they may, this is a good year for boxing and we have some big fights on the horizon.

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                  • Orion
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                    #49
                    Why do people let Floyds attitude get to them, i gave up on that 4 years ago.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Orion
                      Well Hopkins resume is 2nd to none i agree with that part.
                      Even the other's, in terms of challenging fights. I mean Mosley came from the same 135lb div Floyd did. Mosley since fought Oscarx2, Winkyx2, Forrestx2, Vargasx2, Mayorga, Margarito, Cotto, etc. Did he win them all? No, but that's ok because he still wanted to fight the best.

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