Floyd has alot of HEART...It cant be questioned at all!

[Pullcounter]

all those things are obvious... why post it?

[m00ks]

There are a couple fight in which he showed heart JLC 1 for sure that was a hard fought and he had to dig real deep in that fight. The Corley fight where he got stung, then proceed to get his sences back then beat the piss out of Corley for the rest of the round. Against Zab I also feel he showed some heart because that fight was not going his way and he was able to turn that fight in his favor.

Someone without heart would have folded in one of the above situation, but in most of his fights you are right he has not been forced to show much heart.

You could argue that it was heart, although I think of it was simply a strong display of composure. Castillo 1 was a tough fight but he knew that he had the tools necessary to stay in there and get the job done. I personally thought Castillo won that fight but he proved what he could do in the rematch. The Corley fight, yes he got clocked but other than that one instance where he got caught, he was never really in trouble of loosing the fight.

Point is, it's not only in victory where you can display heart. It can be measured as how you stand up to an extreme amount of adversity, something that Floyd has never encountered. Everyone has tough fights, this is boxing not badminton. Simply struggling against a tough opponent is a weak benchmark to set. You compare that to what Ali went through vs Foreman or what Marquez went through vs Pacquiao and suddenly, what
Floyd had to overcome doesn't seem to be anything special.

[Pullcounter]

You could argue that it was heart, although I think of it was simply a strong display of composure. Castillo 1 was a tough fight but he knew that he had the tools necessary to stay in there and get the job done. I personally thought Castillo won that fight but he proved what he could do in the rematch. The Corley fight, yes he got clocked but other than that one instance where he got caught, he was never really in trouble of loosing the fight.

Point is, it's not only in victory where you can display heart. It can be measured as how you stand up to an extreme amount of adversity, something that Floyd has never encountered. Everyone has tough fights, this is boxing not badminton. Simply struggling against a tough opponent is a weak benchmark to set. You compare that to what Ali went through vs Foreman or what Marquez went through vs Pacquiao and suddenly, what
Floyd had to overcome doesn't seem to be anything special.

isn't heart and composure the same thing?

[m00ks]

isn't heart and composure the same thing?

Hell no. .

[Pullcounter]

Hell no. .

explain yourself

[Shattered Jaw]

Floyd has a lot of heart when he wants to...

He stood right in there with Corley and Judah in two great fights. Infact Corley caught him quite a few times in round 3 (I think it was 3) of their fight and landed the right hand quite a lot during that round. Mayweather came back with a vengance after that though.

I don't think heart is the right word to use for Mayweather actually. He's too GOOD to ever get in a serious exchange of blows where he might get his head knocked off. Whenever he has taken a good shot before he usually covers up and lets his opponent waste energy or he just backs off a bit. He's never going to be the blood and guts guy that comes forward, forward, forward.. that's not his way of fighting. If that is the way that you are required to fight to show 'heart' then Mayweather isn't a fighter who's heart you are ever going to get to judge.

[SkillspayBills]

When you say ANY fighter who steps in the ring knowing the other guy wants to take his head off, doesn't have any heart you can suck a ****. ANY fighter.

[The Gambler1981]

You could argue that it was heart, although I think of it was simply a strong display of composure. Castillo 1 was a tough fight but he knew that he had the tools necessary to stay in there and get the job done. I personally thought Castillo won that fight but he proved what he could do in the rematch. The Corley fight, yes he got clocked but other than that one instance where he got caught, he was never really in trouble of loosing the fight.

Point is, it's not only in victory where you can display heart. It can be measured as how you stand up to an extreme amount of adversity, something that Floyd has never encountered. Everyone has tough fights, this is boxing not badminton. Simply struggling against a tough opponent is a weak benchmark to set. You compare that to what Ali went through vs Foreman or what Marquez went through vs Pacquiao and suddenly, what
Floyd had to overcome doesn't seem to be anything special.

I completely disagree, they are all the same situation. Floyd has faced adversity and dealt with it with flying colors everytime he has faced it more or less (JLC1 was damn a close fight). Now compared to certain fightes you are correct that FLoyd has not had to show as much heart because he has rarely had to face adversity, but when he faced it he did fine so I think he can handle adversity on a larger scale decently well (although you are correct we have not seen it to that level, so it is not a proven thing but there are signs of his mental toughness).

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Hell no. .

When under pressure, it certainly is.

How much heart did it take to fight with fractured and broken hands.....throught out his whole career?

How uch heart did it take jump 5 weight classes and be considered small in each one?

How much heart did it take to fight Castillo in your first fight at 135 pounds with no tune up?

How much heart did it take to fight Castillo with a torn rotator cuff...get hit more then ever and then rematch him IN YOUR NEXT FIGHT....when Castillo fought 2-3 times in that span?

How much heart did it take to fight a 38-1..Genaro Hernandez at 21 years old for the WBC featherweight title?

How much heart did it taker to fight the giant Corralles who was knocking people out left and right and was 33-0 when Floyd fought him?...Floyd gave Corralles the worse beating of his career.

How much heart did it take to get your ass beat 12 minutes and 4 rounds staright fighting the faster and more harder hitter in Judah....how much heart did it take to stalk his ass the rst of the fight?

How much heart did it take to beat Ricky at his own game and fight him in the pocket on the inside?

How much heart did it take to move up 154 pounds and fight Oscar?

With a small ring..so Floyd couldnt move...with small gloves with hopes that his hands would break??

Huh how much ****ing heart?


Thanks.

How many times.


Floyd's heart pumps pink blood. That's why we all call him Gayweather.

There's no link-up between the mind and heart in the fortitude required to fight observantly, methodically and calmly when the noted badass coming at you again and again wants (and possesses the ability) to take your head off.


Floyd isn't blood and guts enough to possess a heart. End of thread.

[m00ks]

explain yourself

Heart is so much more than that. It can be described as the willingness to fight back and refusal to yield in the face of dire situations. Chavez Taylor. While Meldrick was getting pummeled, it wasn't composure that was keeping him from coming forward and taking the fight to Chavez even though he was getting punished. It was his absolute determination to be victorious at any cost.

Going for broke or going out on your shield relies more on emotion than concentration. While composure is an achieved state of focus, heart is an unyielding resolution and drive. To say they're one in the same is selling the few who have demonstrated this quality.