As good as Juan Manuel Marquez is lets be real!

[MaYaN_SuN]

lol Anyone who thinks Marquez, became Marquez AFTER the Paq fights is a flat out moron period. The guy had a reputation before that. He would have got put on the scene earlier for these shallower fans, but I know Emanuel Steward admitted to avoiding Marquez when he had Hamed. He said himself that he definitely had no plans on putting Hamed in with Marquez. So he chose Barrera who recently was comin off a Morales loss.

But I think just cause Marquez never had that real break through fight early on, doesn't mean he's over-rated. lol That definitely ranks up there with some of dumbest **** I've ever read on this site. Over-rated fighters don't perform like he does against his competition. He's KOed the highest rated lightweights, Paq didn't even do that. I think Hatton is the only fighter Paq has takin out that wasn't a stiff or at some disadvantage, but even then Hatton did suck in general lol. But Marquez late in his career took those guys who were bigger bodies then him and finished them off blatantly. He was a older version of himself in the majority of his biggest fights, with his hand speed way behind him in the majority of his biggest fights, and he still performed great only showin signs of slower reflexes on defense and in hand speed. Also Marquez' had a chance for a breakthrough fight with Derrik Gainer, but Gainer didn't even bother fighting, he took a few punches and quit. That didn't do anything for Marquez in the eyes of shallow fans, he didn't even get a chance to let the beast loose cause Gainer was running NON STOP.

But the Paq fights were huge just for the simple fact, THAT's the fighter Marquez decided to attempt his break through against. It wasn't a shot Barrera, or a shot Morales. It was Manny Pacqiou lmao, and you're talkin about him bein over-rated? Where the **** do some of you people keep your head at? lol Do even think before posting? In those Paq fights, he showcased epic talent. He got shocked by a unseen southpaw style and literally made adjustments right after the next bell and put hands all over Paq. And he's over-rated because of that? lol Yeah, cause 'that' makes sense.

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As for him vs Morales or Barrera, I think if they all 3 got in the mix in their prime Marquez should be considered the favorite to pull out on top. His straight right was just too much and his left hook wasn't soft either. Barrera had problems with fighters that had the kind of offense Marquez had. Barrera would keep his head up and sometimes be so straight up he looked like a ****in totem pole. That's why Junior Jones and Morales were able to touch him up, they come straight up the middle with straight hard shots. But I think like Jones, Marquez had that weight on the end of his punch.

As for a fight with Morales, just like Barrera Morales would just come forward, but Erik would come behind punches that were like spears. He wouldn't be caught standin straight up like Barrera either. He also had a granite chin. Again though, Marquez had some weight on the end of his shots. Only one could imagine what Morales would look like runnin into Marquez' hands.

[Pullcounter]

jmm didn't have a crowd pleasing style until he fought pac

[mathed]

Marquez was great before the Pac fights but did not ge noticed until then by the majority public. of the

[JACK D. RIPPER]

Alright Marquez is a great fighter, handles adversity pretty damn well, smart fighter, great counter puncher but really he gets too much credit for his close fights with Pacquiao.

Ok lets look at this, other then his close fights with Pacquiao he has KOed Casamayor who was on the verge of loosing to Katsidas prior and KOed Juan Diaz who was schooled by the veteran in Campbel and seriously does not know how to handle adversity. Lets not forget Marquez had trouble with both of those bigger fighters prior to his KO's. Emmanuel Steward even said Marquez doesnt look good at that weight class after Diaz was pounding him in the corner.

Marquez looses to Chris John in Indonesia which people will say it was a hometown gift for John. Marquez never redeemed or asked for that rematch.

Marquez NEVER stepped in the ring with the great Erik Morales not once and finally fought Barrera when Marco had been in wars with Pacquiao and Morales. Lets not forget that win over Barrera wasnt even decisive. Marco knocked him down.

Now Marquez is trying to prove he is the P4P best by calling out Mayweather and his wish just came true. Seriously, Marquez had good wins at lightweight but not dominate ones, now he's moving up to fight Mayweather.

Marquez is a good fighter but seriously, look at what he has been through. Hiding in the woods while Pac, MAB, and EM have there wars then finally comes out to make a name for himself.

I just think people give Marquez TOO much credit especially with his close fights with Pacquiao. Everytime Pac beats his opponents people consider Marquez to do the same which I doubt he pummels DLH or even KO's Hatton.

Your opinions and I know the Marquez huggers are gonna be pissed but its the damn truth, Marquez gets too much credit for nothing.

Dude, dont be a douche. Marquez beat Barrera silly. 117-111. He is the best of the 3 Mexican greats hands down and he beat Packy both times.
Get over it.
I expect an apology when he beats Floyd.