As good as Juan Manuel Marquez is lets be real!

[trainhard_187]

Alright Marquez is a great fighter, handles adversity pretty damn well, smart fighter, great counter puncher but really he gets too much credit for his close fights with Pacquiao.

Ok lets look at this, other then his close fights with Pacquiao he has KOed Casamayor who was on the verge of loosing to Katsidas prior and KOed Juan Diaz who was schooled by the veteran in Campbel and seriously does not know how to handle adversity. Lets not forget Marquez had trouble with both of those bigger fighters prior to his KO's. Emmanuel Steward even said Marquez doesnt look good at that weight class after Diaz was pounding him in the corner.

Marquez looses to Chris John in Indonesia which people will say it was a hometown gift for John. Marquez never redeemed or asked for that rematch.

Marquez NEVER stepped in the ring with the great Erik Morales not once and finally fought Barrera when Marco had been in wars with Pacquiao and Morales. Lets not forget that win over Barrera wasnt even decisive. Marco knocked him down.

Now Marquez is trying to prove he is the P4P best by calling out Mayweather and his wish just came true. Seriously, Marquez had good wins at lightweight but not dominate ones, now he's moving up to fight Mayweather.

Marquez is a good fighter but seriously, look at what he has been through. Hiding in the woods while Pac, MAB, and EM have there wars then finally comes out to make a name for himself.

I just think people give Marquez TOO much credit especially with his close fights with Pacquiao. Everytime Pac beats his opponents people consider Marquez to do the same which I doubt he pummels DLH or even KO's Hatton.

Your opinions and I know the Marquez huggers are gonna be pissed but its the damn truth, Marquez gets too much credit for nothing.

[BmoreBrawler]

I've heard that it was Morales who ducked Marquez and that he has always had trouble landing big fights.

[trainhard_187]

I've heard that it was Morales who ducked Marquez and that he has always had trouble landing big fights.

I doubt Morales ducked Marquez I would go for Morales wanting bigger fights and being busy with Marco and Pac matchups. I dont think Morales ducked Marquez its just that Marquez was a no name during that period. Seriously what was Marquez's come out fight where he got recognition? During the draw with Pacquiao.

[sylvestersweet]

I've heard that it was Morales who ducked Marquez and that he has always had trouble landing big fights.

yeah
Morales ducked Marquez not the other way around
But I agree with the TS that no one can really make a legitamite argument for Marquez being number one at this point, but I think that's because Pacquiao, in my mind, clearly beat him in their second fight.

[Ido]

Actually Juan is a victim of the Sport. When I say victim, is boxing in general did not realize how good he was until his first match with Manny.

If the Sport would have caught on earlier on, his skills would have gradually increased with the exposure of higher ranking contenders. Instead he a late bloomer, despite his age is able to compete in the Elite level. I want to see Manny box as good as he does by the time he is 36.

[Hagler★]

Is this man trying to discredit JMM?
I have heard it all now!

[The Gambler1981]

I think you are kind of right about the last 2 fights, the way he won was impressive but how he won really does not give me a lot of confidence in him going into this fight.

That said I still consider him great but I see your point. Although I think you are being a little harsh on JMM.

[Hagler★]

Actually Juan is a victim of the Sport. When I say victim, is boxing in general did not realize how good he was until his first match with Manny.

If the Sport would have caught on earlier on, his skills would have gradually increased with the exposure of higher ranking contenders. Instead he a late bloomer, despite his age is able to compete in the Elite level. I want to see Manny box as good as he does by the time he is 36.

This is spot on

[Steak]

eh. lets not go overboard with the JMM is overrated stuff. I dont think hes as good as Morales OR Barrera overall, but thats hardly an insult.

he has his pros and cons just like any other fighter. even with his flaws, he is a brilliant technician and its a real treat to watch his fights.

and going up two weight classes to fight Floyd Mayweather? wow! if he can beat Mayweather, he gains a huge amount of respect from me(assuming Mayweather doesnt look awful)

[Papa Ace]

Actually Juan is a victim of the Sport. When I say victim, is boxing in general did not realize how good he was until his first match with Manny.

If the Sport would have caught on earlier on, his skills would have gradually increased with the exposure of higher ranking contenders. Instead he a late bloomer, despite his age is able to compete in the Elite level. I want to see Manny box as good as he does by the time he is 36.

he was more of a victim on the decisions of nacho rather than the sport ahahahaha