Mayweather can be the greatest ever, he just has to want it

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  • m00ks
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    #41
    lol nono. He can't match SRR's activity, no one can. Which means he would have needed to beat mulltiple great fighters in their prime (with rematches if required) in stunning fashion to have any kind of shot. I would think SRL knocking out Pryor at 140 and Hagler at 160 and even with that its hard to say.

    There are no great WW in their prime right now. The p4p fighters he'll be facing are out of their designated division. If Pac's a small jr WW and Marquez should be nowhere near above that.

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    • talip bin osman
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      #42
      Originally posted by m00ks
      lol nono. He can't match SRR's activity, no one can. Which means he would have needed to beat mulltiple great fighters in their prime (with rematches if required) in stunning fashion to have any kind of shot. I would think SRL knocking out Pryor at 140 and Hagler at 160 and even with that its hard to say.

      There are no great WW in their prime right now. The p4p fighters he'll be facing are out of their designated division. If Pac's a small jr WW and Marquez should be nowhere near above that.
      nobody is matching robinson's activity bcoz of the fact that boxing is a business... more so today than it was in the past... cherry picking was less prevalent than it is now... rematches dont happen that often also...

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      • dans
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        #43
        I should've responded to my own thread earlier. I don't know that I believe those 4 fights make him #1 all time, but he certainly has the skill if he has the motivation.

        I meant no disrespect to SRR here. I hated when Floyd made that comment.

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        • moin126
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          #44
          Originally posted by reedickyaluss
          even if he beat marquez pacman mosley and cotto... that wouldnt put him above srr
          and what about rjj,
          remember reed, were gonna cook that boy come july 18th.

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          • aether
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            #45
            Originally posted by dans01234
            Fight Marquez, fight Pacquiao, fight Cotto, fight Mosley, win them all. Then there will be no more talk. May has proven himself time and time again, so what's the problem? Take those fights and win them, you're the man.
            woulda coulda shoulda

            he didnt do ****

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            • El Jesus
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              #46
              Originally posted by talip bin osman
              nobody is matching robinson's activity bcoz of the fact that boxing is a business... more so today than it was in the past... cherry picking was less prevalent than it is now... rematches dont happen that often also...
              Boxing was so not a buisness to ray robinson that he would threaten to not show up the DAY of the fight if he wasnt paid, and had a tendency to change the pricing of his purse the day of the fight, boxing was just as much a buisness then as it is now, the difference is that the fighters have more control over themselves than they did in the past.

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              • talip bin osman
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                #47
                Originally posted by El Jesus
                Boxing was so not a buisness to ray robinson that he would threaten to not show up the DAY of the fight if he wasnt paid, and had a tendency to change the pricing of his purse the day of the fight, boxing was just as much a buisness then as it is now, the difference is that the fighters have more control over themselves than they did in the past.
                so have u slept?

                naaah... TV wasnt as prevalent before as it is now so demand was lower... a lack of footage from his welterweight years attests to it...

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                • El Jesus
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by talip bin osman
                  so have u slept?

                  naaah... TV wasnt as prevalent before as it is now so demand was lower... a lack of footage from his welterweight years attests to it...
                  no i played resident evil 5 and i continue to waste my day off by sitting next to a computer.


                  TV wasnt as prevelant but robinson knew he was the number 1 guy and basically the guy to beat, the demand for tv was lower, but you had radio and you had stadiums packing 100,000 people, there were millions listening to the radio back then, there was a demand, the difference was that when you were number at welterweight, you were number 1 that was it. fighters had alot less control over their purses and most would end up getting ripped off by promoters, thats the difference now, contract negotiations can take forever because fighters try to earn what they are worth and rightfully so.

                  robinson was arrogant and hated as much as ali was in his prime, with 10x the racial issues.

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                  • talip bin osman
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by El Jesus
                    no i played resident evil 5 and i continue to waste my day off by sitting next to a computer.


                    TV wasnt as prevelant but robinson knew he was the number 1 guy and basically the guy to beat, the demand for tv was lower, but you had radio and you had stadiums packing 100,000 people, there were millions listening to the radio back then, there was a demand, the difference was that when you were number at welterweight, you were number 1 that was it. fighters had alot less control over their purses and most would end up getting ripped off by promoters, thats the difference now, contract negotiations can take forever because fighters try to earn what they are worth and rightfully so.

                    robinson was arrogant and hated as much as ali was in his prime, with 10x the racial issues.
                    is RE5 better than RE4?

                    anyway, i really dont understand the dynamics of what was the boxing business back then there in the states...

                    but its the 21st century already mi amigo... i bet if we are still in robinson's time floyd would have fought margarito 3 or 4 times already... or hopkins and roy jones or toney would have...

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                    • skyler
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by dans01234
                      Fight Marquez, fight Pacquiao, fight Cotto, fight Mosley, win them all. Then there will be no more talk. May has proven himself time and time again, so what's the problem? Take those fights and win them, you're the man.
                      Thing is in hes mind he already thinks hes the greatest, so the chances of all these fights happening isn't very likely...

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