Mayweather vs. Pavlik or JMM vs. Mayweather. Equally (un)fair?

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  • THE REED
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    #71
    Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
    and what exactly makes JMM effective at a weight hes never fought at, at the age of 36?
    What made Hopkins effective jumping two weightclasses to fight tarver?

    SKILLS...

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    • Bhopreign
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      #72
      Fighting at 130 Marquez hydrated to 140, he didnt really belong at 130. Floyd never puts on 10 pounds overnight and Marquez will outweigh Floyd on fight night, that much I know.

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        #73
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson
        I can also see what's going on. It's obviously to hype a pac fight which is a fight we all want to see. My question was only in regards to fairness.
        I understand. I just think when when discussing this fight the motives are very important as well.

        To answer your question Floyd has a bit of an advantage because he's used to fighting at 147. IMO though even if JMM was his same size he would always be at a severe disadvantage to Floyd because Floyd is a far more superior fighter.

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        • Vasyl’s dad
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          #74
          Originally posted by ИATAS206
          Are you really so ****** you couldn't figure out my post answered your question? Do I have to spell it out for you? N-O, no that's not why he came back. For the reasons see my last post (or if you cant decipher that, I'll spell it out again P-A-C-Q-U-I-A-O & $-$-$-$-$-$-$).
          What does Pacquiao have to do with Margarito calling Floyd out?

          I asked you your thoughts in that "calling Floyd out".

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            #75
            Originally posted by Bhopreign
            What made Leonard who you keep talking about effective, fact is it took skill to beat Hagler, surely Leonard was more effective at lower weights where his power came into play more, he had to use his head more, SKILLS WIN FIGHTS!


            Are you comparing JMM to SRL?

            Really?



            btw, I voted "unfair" for both fights.

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              #76
              Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
              What does Pacquiao have to do with Margarito calling Floyd out?


              WTF does Margarito have to do with JMM???

              I asked you your thoughts in that "calling Floyd out".
              Your question had a special condition. Let me quote you again:

              Originally Posted by El Gallo Negro!
              Do you really believe Floyd came back simply because Marquez called him out?

              I don't think you really do.

              If you do, whats your take on Margarito calling Floyd out?

              Note the bold text. "IF YOU DO," meaning if I thought Floyd really came back just because Marquez called him out, which I already explained to you twice now that, N-O, I do not think that is the reason (I also provided the motivation for Floyd's return) so the question is not intended to be answered by me since I didn't meet your conditions.

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                #77
                Mayweather beats both.

                Who gives a shyt.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
                  Are you comparing JMM to SRL?

                  Really?



                  btw, I voted "unfair" for both fights.

                  No he isn't.... he is saying it is skill that overcomes weight...


                  I thought it was pretty obvious what he said..

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by ИATAS206
                    WTF does Margarito have to do with JMM???



                    Your question had a special condition. Let me quote you again:

                    Originally Posted by El Gallo Negro!
                    Do you really believe Floyd came back simply because Marquez called him out?

                    I don't think you really do.

                    If you do, whats your take on Margarito calling Floyd out?

                    Note the bold text. "IF YOU DO," meaning if I thought Floyd really came back just because Marquez called him out, which I already explained to you twice now that, N-O, I do not think that is the reason (I also provided the motivation for Floyd's return) so the question is not intended to be answered by me since I didn't meet your conditions.
                    lol...................

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                      No he isn't.... he is saying it is skill that overcomes weight...


                      I thought it was pretty obvious what he said..
                      Thats why guys like Rick Hatton and Margarito get embarassed when they move up.......

                      And guys like Pacman..and Mayweather dominate.

                      SKILLS.

                      There isnt a 160 pounder isnt he world that I would pick over Floyd.

                      Not one.

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