Do you think Sugar Ray Leonard was overrated?

[krispy kreme]

just watch sugar rays old fights ,he was good but not great. he was a class act ill give him that thats rare today.

Then who is your opinion was great?

[ACHlLLES]

no sugar ray was great, ten times greater then floyd

That is not too hard to do now adays when Floyd hand-picks his opponents always asking them to move up in weight or fighting the weakest of fighters in each division to protect that 0. Baldy and Zab is for examples, and then he stays in that weight class on purpose to get hatton to move up to it because he knows its at a huge advantage to him since Hatton looked terrible at 147.

Marquez is floyds next victim, another hand-picked opponent who has never even fought as high as 144 in his life... What a joke match-up, he is using marquezs name on his resume to make it look good but it just looks padded to a professional or any boxing fan who isn't casual.

[Dan...]

I don' see what is wrong with the thread. Great fighters can be overrated. I think that is the case with Ray.

People talk about Ray like he was some kind of God. I've seen people put him in there top 5 p4p all time rankings.

Not for mine. And don't give me the "you haven't seen enough of Ray's fights" bull****. I got the career set and I have seen all the fights, several multiple times. Sure he has a tremendous resume and he is an ATG, but that can be a little deceptive sometimes. He should definately have a loss against Hearns for one, the second fight was only a draw if you don't have any eyes. Many, many people have him losing to a fading Hagler as well.

Basically, I'm not saying Leonard was not a tremendous fighter, he was. But even tremendous fighters can be overrated.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

****** Thread, nobody who beats 4 ATGs, and and stop 2 of them is overrated period.

Epic fail !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lettdragon]

so you think he was great ,and as far as cotto i like cotto, but pacman will beat him im sorry dude but he will.

[krispy kreme]

so you think he was great ,and as far as cotto i like cotto, but pacman will beat him im sorry dude but he will.

LOL okay, make a thread and explain to us how that happens. No offense, but you don't know about boxing as a sport.

[-EX-]

I don' see what is wrong with the thread. Great fighters can be overrated. I think that is the case with Ray.

People talk about Ray like he was some kind of God. I've seen people put him in there top 5 p4p all time rankings.

Not for mine. And don't give me the "you haven't seen enough of Ray's fights" bull****. I got the career set and I have seen all the fights, several multiple times. Sure he has a tremendous resume and he is an ATG, but that can be a little deceptive sometimes. He should definately have a loss against Hearns for one, the second fight was only a draw if you don't have any eyes. Many, many people have him losing to a fading Hagler as well.

Basically, I'm not saying Leonard was not a tremendous fighter, he was. But even tremendous fighters can be overrated.

Ray can be placed in the top 10. At least top 15. And him and Hearns were washed up ny the 2nd fight. And him and Hagler were considered fading...and the fight was at 160. Ray's best weight was 147.

Only knock on Ray is maybe his D cudda been better.

[Main Event]

no sugar ray was great, ten times greater then floyd

Floyd has what to do with Ray?

Anyways he was not overrated easily one of the top 15 P4P fighters of all time wins over Duran x2,Hearns,Benitez,and Hagler(though controversial) make him a legend....Kind of a silly thread if you ask me

[King Koopa]

Leonard at 147 could arguably beat any fighter at any timeline...except SRR

[lettdragon]

come on dude thats all you got ,ill respect your view just give me one.