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  • There is a particular reason why floyd is so important to the sport of boxing

    I read countless threads, over the last few years i have been on here i have read thread after thread. I have seen so many fans come through here, as long as their fighter is active, theyll be here, and when that fighters hype dies down, they are gone. Different waves of fans come and go on here. Defending their fighter to the nth degree.

    In particular though, with floyd mayweather, the only time i can think of when he was actually liked on here was after he beat the hell out of arturo gatti and before that, he was mostly thought of as a good fighter who was underrated. I didint imagine hed be the biggest fighter in the sport, or at least the most polarizing.

    But there is something that has come to my attention, its something wmute and dirt e gomez mentioned more than a year ago. Who the hell is there to replace mayweather? Im being serious. Mayweather is one of the last fighters in boxing who represents the sport in its truest form. From defense to offense, mayweather has the total package. Guys like toney, hopkins, calderon etc are leaving the sport. It seems now more than ever, with our amatuer program in disarray, the dearth in pure boxers is becoming evident. Sure there is pacman, a once in a lifetime fighter, but more and more i am seeing guys who more or less fight like pac over the years, there will be another like him, maybe he wont be filipino, but theyll be another.

    But more and more im looking around and im seeing very few fighters with the total package, lineares, donaire, juanma and a few others are all i can really think of that REALLY have it all.

    Growing up there were guys like Whitaker, Tyson, Jones Jr, Ray Leonard, Vernon Forrest etc who had it all. It seems there are fewer and fewer as time goes on, and even as they come on, they dont get the support. Boxing, now more than ever, is about knockouts as opposed to the specticle of the sport, so more and more youths are likely throwing defense and fundamentals out the window.

    Just last night i had to argue with another poster about how important the amatuer program is and that turning pro young and being successfull is VERY rare. If this is the mentality that people are taking with amatuers and how it prepares you for the pros, we are going to see less and less complete fighters in our sport. Granted that poster is obviously a newcomer to the sport and had little knowledge beyond pacman, its still something im seeing and dealing with more and more.

    For alot of you, you could care less, you want knockouts, you want to spend more time on resumes and belts and weight classes etc, thats fine. But without mayweather the p4p list got thin as ****, even ring magazine admitted this, complete fighters are becoming less and less and less, this is why for me, mayweather is so important, i dont care if he stays undefeated or not, i just want him in the sport as long as he can sustain it, because the sport needs his influence and his technical brilliance, because when its gone, its gone.

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    I am aware since i am actually talking about the sport as a whole without hyperbolic drama this thread wont get much attention, but i hope someone takes the time to reply and discuss this.

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    • #3
      Yeah, The Winky's, Hopkins's and Floyd's are not very appreciated in this forum. Around here where I live, everyone loves Floyd, Toney, RJJ, Hopkins, Winky Etc. but then again everyone around here are age 25+ This forum has 25 year olds who don't even appreciate those guys and hate on them. Goes to show what age they really are.

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      • #4
        Excellent thread. I agree fully.

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        • #5
          There are plenty of young boxers who are "complete." They belong to different demographics, peheps, but that should be no mark against them.

          Pacquiao's last few performances rank with anybody's in recent history. Neither Floyd nor Hopkins have had a comparable run in their careers. On the undercard the Russian and the Cuban were both terrific. Middleweight will soon be deep. Welterweight is a solid weight class. There are several good young little men like Juanma. And the most skilled big man in history rules the HWs.

          So what exactly are you lamenting? There are no more "flashy" black Americans? (This is what you meant). There are a few those too.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by kayjay View Post
            There are plenty of young boxers who are "complete." They belong to different demographics, peheps, but that should be no mark against them.

            Pacquiao's last few performances rank with anybody's in recent history. Neither Floyd nor Hopkins have had a comparable run in their careers. On the undercard the Russian and the Cuban were both terrific. Middleweight will soon be deep. Welterweight is a solid weight class. There are several good young little men like Juanma. And the most skilled big man in history rules the HWs.

            So what exactly are you lamenting? There are no more "flashy" black Americans? (This is what you meant). There are a few those too.
            Your cherry picking on my topic and trying to turn to something about race is old and at this point its actually really annoying, which is exactly why i said this

            But more and more im looking around and im seeing very few fighters with the total package, lineares, donaire, juanma and a few others are all i can really think of that REALLY have it all.
            take that **** somewhere else.

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            • #7
              Mr boat buyer has the talent to be a gr8 ambassador for boxing, but he won't make the most of it anymore. He did yrs back and was praised accordingly for it. Nowadays, it's easy $ or no fight, and he deserves to get criticized for it.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Kevin Jesus View Post
                Yeah, The Winky's, Hopkins's and Floyd's are not very appreciated in this forum. Around here where I live, everyone loves Floyd, Toney, RJJ, Hopkins, Winky Etc. but then again everyone around here are age 25+ This forum has 25 year olds who don't even appreciate those guys and hate on them. Goes to show what age they really are.
                Neither Winky nor Hopkins is a "complete" boxer like BJ was talking about. Winky is an interesting fighter but was only ever a light-punching hugh guard guy.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by kayjay View Post
                  There are plenty of young boxers who are "complete." They belong to different demographics, peheps, but that should be no mark against them.

                  Pacquiao's last few performances rank with anybody's in recent history. Neither Floyd nor Hopkins have had a comparable run in their careers. On the undercard the Russian and the Cuban were both terrific. Middleweight will soon be deep. Welterweight is a solid weight class. There are several good young little men like Juanma. And the most skilled big man in history rules the HWs.

                  So what exactly are you lamenting? There are no more "flashy" black Americans? (This is what you meant). There are a few those too.

                  He's not talking about performances or resumes or black fighters or being flashy, he's talking about how everyone just cares about KO's now and no one appreciates defensive fighters and complete fighters. At least I think that's what he meant.
                  Last edited by Kevin Jesus; 05-05-2009, 02:57 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Good post

                    The art of defense is dying fast. New fight fans dont seem to appreciate the skills of fighters like Mayweather and Hopkins.

                    While i enjoy all action fighters like Pacman and Morlaes, I prefer to watch Floyd or Bhop as I feel they have the complet package. It is defence not offence that has allowed Hopkins such a long career where at 44years of age he is till in the top ten p4p fighters in the world.

                    Floyd is one of the last great characters outside the ring, his such an entertainer. He slates his opponents before going in to hype up the fights, but afterwards is very gratious as seen ater the Hatton fight. He thrives on being the enemy as he knows someone has to be the bad guy to bring in the $$$$.

                    The money is there for the KO artists, so young fighters are obviously going to want to emulate the fighters that are paraded..the kelly pavliks, pacman, etc.

                    Also won last point, it was defence, tactics and ring generalship, not offence that allowed Ali to prevail over George Foreman. If Ali he had tried to trade with George, he would have been Ko'd within 4 or 5 rounds.

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