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    #211
    Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
    Margarito, Cotto, Mosley, Clottey, Williams, Quintana, Cintron.


    All those guys I named,

    Floyd beat none of them as welterweight lineal champion.
    Floyd was lineal champ in 06. Clottey lost to Margarito. What was Paul Williams doing then? Quintana got dropped by Cotto. Cintron? Lmao...Mosley's tooth is still hurtin.

    A Cotto fight makes sense...

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      #212
      Originally posted by The_Executioner
      Judah was an undisputed champ. Margarito was a beltholder. And Baldomir was the lineal champ. And yea Judah lost to Baldomir, Floyd wouldn't turn down wat would be regarded as a somewat superfight and then he fought Baldomir who had beaten Judah anyway.
      How could Judah be undisputed champ and Baldomir be lineal at the same time? Methinks you're lying. Or you don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

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        #213
        Originally posted by The_Executioner
        Judah was an undisputed champ. Margarito was a beltholder. And Baldomir was the lineal champ. And yea Judah lost to Baldomir, Floyd wouldn't turn down wat would be regarded as a somewat superfight and then he fought Baldomir who had beaten Judah anyway.
        Nope, Judah was a loser who just lost his championship. He was nothing when Mayweather faced him but an ex champion.

        Doesn't matter to me because I still enjoyed the fight, but when it comes to cats like you who say that a fighter doesn't deserve a chance once they lose,

        well,

        theres the ether.

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          #214
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          How could Judah be undisputed champ and Baldomir be lineal at the same time? Methinks you're lying. Or you don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.
          Not in 06 in the past...

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            #215
            Originally posted by The_Executioner
            Leon and Michael are better than Marquez. Norton I'd put ahead of Hatton. Shavers is another good win.
            Originally posted by Mr. Ryan
            How is Leon Spinks a better fighter than Juan Manuel Marquez? Lol, that's just a little over the top there. Michael was legitimately great but he beat Holmes, at least in the first fight he did. Leon Spinks was no great fighter lol, Marquez is.

            Norton ahead of Hatton, it's easy to say that a few days after Hatton gets KO'ed but let's remember, Hatton won his championship by stopping the acknowledged champion of the division. Norton won a vacant belt and lost it in his first defense.

            Shavers never won a title.
            You're being too nice. Saying Leon Spinks is better than JMM would only coming from a pugilistic idiot, hater, ******* or all 3.

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              #216
              Originally posted by The_Executioner
              Not in 06 in the past...
              How about when Floyd fought him?

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                #217
                Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
                Nope, Judah was a loser who just lost his championship. He was nothing when Mayweather faced him but an ex champion.

                Doesn't matter to me because I still enjoyed the fight, but when it comes to cats like you who say that a fighter doesn't deserve a chance once they lose,

                well,

                theres the ether.
                Judah was at the time a better name than Margarito and he still held a belt for ****** reasons...Judah had done more at the weight than Margarito did.

                And your assuming with that last part...

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                  #218
                  Imagine if Cotto lost to Gomez and then said he wanted a shot at Floyd. He'd get laughed out of the room.

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                    #219
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    How about when Floyd fought him?
                    He held a belt for other reasons...

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                      #220
                      Originally posted by The_Executioner
                      Judah was at the time a better name than Margarito and he still held a belt for ****** reasons...Judah had done more at the weight than Margarito did.

                      And your assuming with that last part...
                      Judah had split two fights with Cory Spinks and barely got by the ancient Rafael Pineda. Then he lost to a guy he was so favored against, most bookeepers didn't even have a line for the fight. Way to fight the best.

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