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  • #11
    Thats what Im tryn to get at...it didnt seem Pac threw one shot with that much force and leverage not even once. He seemed to be just content with potshotting Oscar to submission. Gameplan or not, he clearly had Oscar for the taking at the 7th and 8th yet he didnt unload like we're used to seeing Pac do when he has someone trouble.

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    • #12
      He may not have unleashed out of respect, he may not have released out of caution. Many times a fighter has been winning the fight only to get caught with one punch. Herol Graham spings to mind.

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      • #13
        He focused more on speedy shots in that fight. He wanted to come in, do combos and get out. Hatton said Manny looks off balanced right after he does his heavy punches. Manny couldnt afford to give DLH the opportunity cause he could get KTFO if DLH lands a great punch on him being that DLH's "bigger" and all.
        Although I thought Pac went easy on DLH when he backed off from him when he had DLH on the ropes. I dont know if he needed a rest from all that punching or he was being cautious or just doing it out of respect for Oscar.
        But after the 8th, Roach knew it was time for Manny to drop bombs so he told him to do so but the fight ended.

        My 2 cents.

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        • #14
          Pacquioa went out all guns blazing because that's exactly what Roach wanted him to do. He always said it'd be over in three.

          With De La Hoya, they were a little bit more cautious of how much he had left in the tank, his height and his reach over Pac. Pacman was told to go easier on De La Hoya and just out work him and was told to try and knock Hatton out.

          Think the fight might've gone on longer if Hatton didn't use his chin as his defence mechanism. Where was his gaurd?!

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          • #15
            Originally posted by SekondzOut View Post
            Pac held back......Roach noticed it to and told Manny he had a job to do now go do it.......it was obvious Manny held back........Manny knew before everybody that Oscar was weak and couldn't do ****......he's in the ring with the dude so of course he felt bad for Oscar........but I'm suprised nobody saw Hopkins pull back and let Pavlik finish........NOBODY ever bought that up and its interesting because even when Hopkins landed that bolo punch after landing something like 5 or 6 unanswered.....he backed off.....but thats another thread......somebody get it started
            he wasn't holding back.

            his corner was telling him to be careful. they were winning the fight.

            going into the last round they fought , roach told manny to be careful because oscar might try to go for broke.

            the whole time in the corner they wanted manny to not get careless and not to take any unnecessary risks since they thought oscar was still dangerous.

            freddie didn't tell manny to go ko him 'til the last time they were in his corner. that's when he told manny to go for it and take him out (funny since that's the round roach bet money on. lol) but obviously oscar quit before the round started.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by mike0925 View Post
              If he landed that same shot on Oscars chin he would be out cold too. Once your neck turns that fast once it reaches that certain point you are out. that is not something your chin can help.
              yeah and it wouldv knocked Vitali Klitchko out too right, dumbass

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              • #17
                Originally posted by KnockMeOut View Post
                He focused more on speedy shots in that fight. He wanted to come in, do combos and get out. Hatton said Manny looks off balanced right after he does his heavy punches. Manny couldnt afford to give DLH the opportunity cause he could get KTFO if DLH lands a great punch on him being that DLH's "bigger" and all.
                Although I thought Pac went easy on DLH when he backed off from him when he had DLH on the ropes. I dont know if he needed a rest from all that punching or he was being cautious or just doing it out of respect for Oscar.
                But after the 8th, Roach knew it was time for Manny to drop bombs so he told him to do so but the fight ended.

                My 2 cents.
                Well just imagine if Pac went all out in the 7th or 8th round....what I would give to see the Goldenboy sprawled out like Hatton.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Obusv477 View Post
                  Thats what Im tryn to get at...it didnt seem Pac threw one shot with that much force and leverage not even once. He seemed to be just content with potshotting Oscar to submission. Gameplan or not, he clearly had Oscar for the taking at the 7th and 8th yet he didnt unload like we're used to seeing Pac do when he has someone trouble.
                  you're trippin.

                  he unloaded a group of punches on oscar in the 7th.

                  the 8th roach told him to be careful because oscar might go for broke.

                  manny can't just throw punches non stop.

                  he has to slow down at some points or he'll blow his load.



                  oscar didn't get koed because oscar has one hell of a chin. tell me who has koed oscar? a huge middleweight hopkins and that was with a body shot.

                  manny has pop at 140 but oscar has taken punches from huge welterweights and huge middleweights.

                  you can't expect manny to ko everyone. there's some little flyweights that he couldn't ko. things happen. no one has 100% ko ratio unless you're fighting japanese tomato cans every fight like valero.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Obusv477 View Post
                    Well just imagine if Pac went all out in the 7th or 8th round....what I would give to see the Goldenboy sprawled out like Hatton.
                    god you're ******.

                    big difference between hatton and oscar , man.

                    learn something about boxing before you start talking.

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                    • #20
                      pacman held back around late round7 when hoya wasnt doing **** but cover his face by the ropes..

                      u see the difference..in the hatton 2nd round knockdown..
                      at the same time hoya has a better chin
                      but i believed pac couldve KO hoya..

                      oscar is a b1tch still claiming he was weight drained..

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