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  • SuperKing
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    #11
    He fought a clueless Hatton and an absolutely shot and a weight drained De La Hoya. He's been impressive for sure but some people are taking it a little too far with the hype.

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      #12
      Originally posted by King Jaffe Joffer
      I mean people are saying he would beat Cotto and all these other huge welters... I beg to differ.. He may give them trouble being a southpaw and most of all his blazing speed. But lets get real here. Hatton arguably had the worst defense, gameplan, widest punches I ever seen at a level this high. It was like dude was an novice.. Taking nothing away from Pac, he did what he was supposed to do vs Hatton and Oscar in amazing fashion. But come on. He struggled and arguably lost to a 35 year old JMM.

      But yes, a Mayweather vs Pacman needs to happen to settle this..
      I actually think Pac has a better chance vs Floyd than he does a Cotto or Mosley @ 147
      Do you think Pacquiao still fights like that?

      The 35 JMM who ko'd Juan Diaz?

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      • D-MiZe
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        #13
        Originally posted by ИATAS206
        No. I'm getting tired of people not giving pac the credit he deserves as the best fighter in the sport. Diaz was nothing, a nobody, oscar was dehydrated, now what about ricky? he wasn't that good? pfffft
        Yea, he wasn't that good.

        He came in to the match with his new 'skills'. Then completely forgot about it and just ran at Manny.

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        • josenoway
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          #14
          Not to downplay his achievements, but I think the fight said a lot more about how 'not-great' Ricky was, then how 'great' Manny is. Again, not trying to take away from Pac's blistering KO.

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            #15
            Originally posted by SuperKing
            He fought a clueless Hatton and an absolutely shot and a weight drained De La Hoya. He's been impressive for sure but some people are taking it a little too far with the hype.
            The more fights he wins, the more excuses people keep making for the fighters that he beats. When does it end? With a win over Money? Or will there be an excuse there as well. The guy can't get credit no matter what he does, maybe because he is so humble. Maybe if he said, "Yeah, I make Hatton my ***** now da world knows my name" he would get credit for a win for once.

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            • syphillis
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              #16
              I hate that this fight ended up so quickly. Because in theory, Pac still has not been tested above 130. The haters will say this, no doubt. All previous 3 opponents could barely put up a performance to make it interesting.

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              • hugh grant
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                #17
                Pac totally destroys people like they have never been destroyed, but then say but he wont beat this person or that person ie wont beat Cotto, or Mosely.

                Because Pac keeps beating people, why dont people assume Pac would beat SSM, or a Cotto? If Pac would have lost to Hatton, then by all means assume he cant beat SSM or Cotto. But how can Pac get discredited whatever he does? Hes the best in the world so why shouldnt he beat Cotto, or SSM? SSM has seen better days. Cotto has yet to prove himself like Pac.

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                  #18
                  I don't think we're overrating him at all.

                  Hatton was in a GREAT condition for this fight. Sure his defence was non existant, but it's always been that way. Ricky was unbeaten at 140 and had been the king of that weight for years. Then Pacquiao comes in and makes him look like a complete amateur. He is the only fighter I have seen make Ricky fight on the back foot and push him back. All this from a guy who has never even fought at the weight before.

                  There is no way to overrate something like that..

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                  • street bully
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by syphillis
                    I hate that this fight ended up so quickly. Because in theory, Pac still has not been tested above 130. The haters will say this, no doubt. All previous 3 opponents could barely put up a performance to make it interesting.
                    Doesn't that make Pacquiao seem even better?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by King Jaffe Joffer
                      I mean people are saying he would beat Cotto and all these other huge welters... I beg to differ.. He may give them trouble being a southpaw and most of all his blazing speed. But lets get real here. Hatton arguably had the worst defense, gameplan, widest punches I ever seen at a level this high. It was like dude was an novice.. Taking nothing away from Pac, he did what he was supposed to do vs Hatton and Oscar in amazing fashion. But come on. He struggled and arguably lost to a 35 year old JMM.

                      But yes, a Mayweather vs Pacman needs to happen to settle this..
                      I actually think Pac has a better chance vs Floyd than he does a Cotto or Mosley @ 147
                      But you are!

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