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  • Me La Pelan
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    #121
    war marquez!!!

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    • mrosborne
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      #122
      Originally posted by m00ks
      WOW. Unbelievable fight. This is Marquez's response to Pac-DLH and although I think he's wayyy in over his head, this is going to be a GREAT fight. I know that Floyd's bigger but who cares. Marquez is is top 3 p4p and he'll put on a great show. The current best boxer vs the current best counterpuncher. Insane....

      I hope everyone recognizes that these are special times that we're in, witnessing one historical fight after the other. In recent years, we've witnessed history and this is just another installment.

      Floyd UD.

      Let me ask you something dude. What do you think about weight classes and what purpose are they intended to serve? I fully understand Juan Manuel Marquez why took the fight, but does FMJ really need to fight a true featherweight who fought for most his career there to jump up nearly 20 pounds to tune himself up with?

      As great as JMM is, there is a reason there are weightclasses, and it isn't for much larger opponents to tune themselves up with. That's called a ***** move, and that's exactly why Oscar De La Hoya caught so much **** for fighting Manny. How is Floyd picking the little fighter he has every advantage over ANY different than Oscar fighting Pacquiao? I hope this blows up in FMJ's face personally, and I'm going to come off as a Floyd hater but I thought Oscar lacked balls when he pulled the same BS with the Pacquiao fight.

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      • Bhopreign
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        #123
        Originally posted by mrosborne
        Let me ask you something dude. What do you think about weight classes and what purpose are they intended to serve? I fully understand Juan Manuel Marquez why took the fight, but does FMJ really need to fight a true featherweight who fought for most his career there to jump up nearly 20 pounds to tune himself up with?

        As great as JMM is, there is a reason there are weightclasses, and it isn't for much larger opponents to tune themselves up with. That's called a ***** move, and that's exactly why Oscar De La Hoya caught so much **** for fighting Manny. How is Floyd picking the little fighter he has every advantage over ANY different than Oscar fighting Pacquiao? I hope this blows up in FMJ's face personally, and I'm going to come off as a Floyd hater but I thought Oscar lacked balls when he pulled the same BS with the Pacquiao fight.
        Hatton wants to fight Marquez and has fought or wanted to fight many fighters smaller than him. What do you say about that?

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        • mrosborne
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          #124
          Originally posted by Bhopreign
          Hatton wants to fight Marquez and has fought or wanted to fight many fighters smaller than him. What do you say about that?
          Actually, Hatton has NEVER fought anyone under 140, but has fought a couple times with lackluster results at 147. As far as him fighting Marquez, I personally don't like it. I think Marquez at 135 is really pushing it, and although his fight with Juan Diaz was excellent, the man is simply too small to handle MOST true 135-140 pound fighters, Hatton included.

          To Hatton's defense, the reason he is choosing Marquez is simply because JMM was the man who most believe beat the man in Manny Pacquiao for their second time, so I understand it. Do I like the choice in picking a smaller fighter? Absolutely not. Personally I believe Hatton wants to finish out his career fighting Pacquiao, winning, then for his final fight he would choose FMJ in Manchester in front of 50,000+ screaming Hattonites. Win or lose, he would close out the career being the Pound for Pound Best(disputable, but this is his personal claim for beating the current P4P), and tried or even possibly achieved beating the only guy who did in FMJ in front of his home crowd.

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            #125
            Originally posted by mrosborne
            Actually, Hatton has NEVER fought anyone under 140, but has fought a couple times with lackluster results at 147. As far as him fighting Marquez, I personally don't like it. I think Marquez at 135 is really pushing it, and although his fight with Juan Diaz was excellent, the man is simply too small to handle MOST true 135-140 pound fighters, Hatton included.

            To Hatton's defense, the reason he is choosing Marquez is simply because JMM was the man who most believe beat the man in Manny Pacquiao for their second time, so I understand it. Do I like the choice in picking a smaller fighter? Absolutely not. Personally I believe Hatton wants to finish out his career fighting Pacquiao, winning, then for his final fight he would choose FMJ in Manchester in front of 50,000+ screaming Hattonites. Win or lose, he would close out the career being the Pound for Pound Best(disputable, but this is his personal claim for beating the current P4P), and tried or even possibly achieved beating the only guy who did in FMJ in front of his home crowd.
            He isnt too small, just because he chose to wait until now to move up doesnt mean he is smaller than fighters at weights above him. Castillo was not a 135lber? Hatton in the UK fought mostly very old men who didnt have much of a chance. Be fair is all Im asking.

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              #126
              Originally posted by Bhopreign
              He isnt too small, just because he chose to wait until now to move up doesnt mean he is smaller than fighters at weights above him. Castillo was not a 135lber? Hatton in the UK fought mostly very old men who didnt have much of a chance. Be fair is all Im asking.
              I try to be as fair and level headed towards all discussions. Marquez just recently started to fight above 130 at lightweight, and he's at the tail end of his career and approaching 40 sooner than later. If anything history teaches you is that fighters who have been considered great fighters that inevitably move up in weight do not fare as well. Are there exceptions? Sure there are. By and large they get outsized, don't have the reflexes/speed in their delivery or reactions, and take punishment from much harder hitting fighters due to the weight. Even the great Sugar Ray Robinson isn't immune to this idea as he moved up to MW and even a LHW match in the twilight of his career. The idea is every man has a certain limit in size before someone bigger and equally skilled will beat your ass, and that's why weight classes are in existence.

              So yes, I am being fair at least in my opinion. Ever heard the saying, "Why don't you pick on someone your OWN SIZE?" Evidently boxers have forgotten this adage in chasing the mega payday, and that's sad.

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              • DonTaseMeBrah
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                #127
                win win situation for marquez. he wont get dominated like hatton but he will lose. He gets tons of respect from fans & the boxing journos for even taking on fraud jr, but fraud jr on the other hand wont get any credit. if he wins, there are excuses & criticism galore & if he loses my o my.

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by OnePunch
                  Take a dump in one hand, and wait for Floyd to fight a legit opponent in the other. See which one gets you a result first.......


                  I'll go with pigs flying & hell freezing over before floyd fights a legitimate welter. i guess shane is left to rematching w/ cotto.

                  Did i mention fraud jr. is a ducking beyotch?

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Keyser Soze
                    Awesome, looking forward to it. Want JMM to win, he won't, but hey it's gonna be fun seeing the two most skilled boxers share the same ring. As much as I dislike Floyd, I don't mind this as a comeback fight.

                    I think people are overstating the weight and size differential a little.
                    exactly they fought and started there careers 4 pounds apart, people want floyd to fight shane who started his career 5 pound heavier than floyd. Floyd has been outweighed by ODh and Baldomir by 15 pounds and beat them. he is a tiny welterweight tinier than Pernell was, and when you have as much skill as Floyd and Marquez it doesn't matter. JMM is the best fighterfloyd has faced. the only fighter Floyd has faced that does everything well, Also FLoyd is no longer in his 20's he's 32 and coming off a layoff, and jmmarquez is 35 and active. Even the great ray Leonard struggle against Donny Lalone wen he came back at that age. This will be a tough tough fight. Floyd by majority decision. Floyd will beat pacman a lot easier than he will JMM

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by dnash1911
                      exactly they fought and started there careers 4 pounds apart, people want floyd to fight shane who started his career 5 pound heavier than floyd. Floyd has been outweighed by ODh and Baldomir by 15 pounds and beat them. he is a tiny welterweight tinier than Pernell was, and when you have as much skill as Floyd and Marquez it doesn't matter. JMM is the best fighterfloyd has faced. the only fighter Floyd has faced that does everything well, Also FLoyd is no longer in his 20's he's 32 and coming off a layoff, and jmmarquez is 35 and active. Even the great ray Leonard struggle against Donny Lalone wen he came back at that age. This will be a tough tough fight. Floyd by majority decision. Floyd will beat pacman a lot easier than he will JMM



                      pernell is like 5'6 while fraud jr is almost 5'9. old coked up pernell took on prime tito & prime oscar at 147. fraud jr took on judah, baldomir, & hatton.

                      brah.

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