Team Pacquiao taking a gamble in training?

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"Hatton stopped him, Cotto couldn't, nuff said. There was an obvious reason to stop it in the Hatton fight as he was taking far more punishment "

Plain and basic common sense.

If Hatton had Cottos power that fight would have been over in round 3 though.

[MagicManBoxing]

If Hatton had Cottos power that fight would have been over in round 3 though.

Exactly, i get your point, these guys think power punching and busting a guys face up is the be all end all of fighting.

[iron lung]

ya'll forget
1. cotto was much bigger than malignaggi in that fight. he came in weight drained because he was already naturally much huger for that weight and after he rehydrated he was a huge beast in the ring compared to tiny Paulie.
2. In Hatton's fight, Hatton was the smaller man, had the reach AND height disadvantage and he still brutalized Paulie worse than Cotto.

What does that say for little Ricky?

[Doop]

ya'll forget
1. cotto was much bigger than malignaggi in that fight. he came in weight drained because he was already naturally much huger for that weight and after he rehydrated he was a huge beast in the ring compared to tiny Paulie.
2. In Hatton's fight, Hatton was the smaller man, had the reach AND height disadvantage and he still brutalized Paulie worse than Cotto.

What does that say for little Ricky?

You're wasting your time arguing with this ******ed haters. It's best just to ignore and laugh at them.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

The bottom line is the Cotto-Paulie fight was 115-112 and Paulie was always IN the fight and it was relatively close. Hatton dominated every round and blew him out and STOPPED him.
And you obviously very conveniently keep ignoring their only other common opponent Maussa who Cotto TKO'd and Hatton brutally KO'd with one giant punch.

Or you could look at it this way. Paulie couldn't punch **** and Hatton still couldn't beat him down badly. How is that blowing anybody out? Cotto faced a much better version of Paul than Hatton, faced much more offensive resistance and still beat him up far worse than Ricky could.

Maussa was a pretty KO, Ricky set him up nicely. That left-hook lands once in a blue moon, though, and he rarely sets it up as well as that, which is why it usually hits air.


Thing is, you're still confused. The thread of convo concerned the argument that Hatton is a better technician than perceived, and will show more finesse tonight than many expect. You then steamed in with this gem,

Cotto battered Malignaggi to a UD and Hatton not only stopped him but rocked and wobbled him badly as early as the first 3 rounds (I forget which round it was in particular when Hatton with 1 punch very badly put Malignaggi on ***** street). This should give you an idea of Hatton's power..

So, to support the argument that Hatton is a better boxer than perceived, you introduce the subject of Malignaggi being stopped, in ******ly hyperbolic terms. Then you started creaming your pants over the big finishing punch to the Maussa KO. Okay. You seem confused.

I'll help you out. The Hatton-Malignaggi fight, and especially how it compares to the Cotto-Malignaggi fight, have ZERO bearing on tonight. Whatsoever.


And incidentally, for the record, Malignaggi was never on "***** street". He was badly buzzed, hurt.
It's only a NOOB who doesn't know when and where to use the terminology.



I haven't even made a call for this fight, idiot. I'm supporting Pac because he's 10 times better a man and (more importantly here) a fighter than Hatton will ever be, win or lose.
Only way Hatton wins in my mind, though, is by being a dirty ****. But we'll see.

Bookmarked for a bump, in case the best man (that's Pac, btw) really does win. Feel free to do the same - but the rule is, you can only bump if Ricky boxes a masterclass around Pac.

What's wrong did Hatton **** your mom and now you hate the half english part of you?
Light's out *****, you just got sonned. Now sit down and take your ass raping like the little ***** you are because your gay lover Pacquiao is going to get an even worse beating tonight than you got in this thread.

Um, yeah. Keep talking tough with your tiny knackers hid safely under the PC desk.
You aren't man enough to father children. Let alone son anybody across the internet.


I come from better genetic stock than Hatton, btw. No female member of my family would touch that ghost-colored midget with a bargepole.

[Konstantin]

The root of this problem is there are two people who are on the same side who are actually arguing different points. And their opponents are just arguing against 1.


X is actually arguing that Hatton won the fight more convincingly than Cotto, but his wording almost makes it seem like he's arguing he has more power.

He beat Malignaggi like he was his daddy, way worse than Cotto, just Cottos punches had a bit more pop and his face looked like pizza man.

Iron lung is arguing that he has more power.

Sounds like a lot of excuses coming from you when the fact is Hatton stopped him, Cotto couldn't, nuff said. There was an obvious reason to stop it in the Hatton fight as he was taking far more punishment and the fight was far less competitive.
Truth is Cotto and Hatton's power is comparable, and neither can rightly claim to be stronger hitters than the other. Cotto TKO'd Maussa in 8, Hatton brutally KO'd him with 1 shot in the 9th. As you can see it can be very easily argued Hattno has more power but it's all moot, even with similar power it still spells doom for Pacman because Pacman would not be able to take Cotto's power any better than he would Hatton's.

[Pullcounter]

it's be clear on something... cotto is a monstrous puncher when compared to hatton.

[iron lung]

Or you could look at it this way. Paulie couldn't punch **** and Hatton still couldn't beat him down badly. How is that blowing anybody out? Cotto faced a much better version of Paul than Hatton, faced much more offensive resistance and still beat him up far worse than Ricky could.

Right, another excuse, how many more are you going to rattle off before you realize that you have zero argument and that all evidence has owned you?

Maussa was a pretty KO, Ricky set him up nicely. That left-hook lands once in a blue moon, though, and he rarely sets it up as well as that, which is why it usually hits air.

Another excuse as expected. We're not discussing the probability of landing or the effectiveness of particular punches, we're discussing what DID actually happen, and once again in what actually happened you, your argument, and the fighter you're defending (Cotto) are OWNED.

I'll help you out. The Hatton-Malignaggi fight, and especially how it compares to the Cotto-Malignaggi fight, have ZERO bearing on tonight. Whatsoever.

As expected, failing to mount a convincing argument in a losing situation, you in typical fashion resort to a laughably sophmoric attempt to switch subjects and subvert the entire argument by dismissing it as suddenly irrelevant. It was strangely relevant for the past 10 pages that you were arguing it though, it's just funny how right when you get owned it magically reverts to being irrelevant. What a laugh. You're owned.

And incidentally, for the record, Malignaggi was never on "***** street". He was badly buzzed, hurt.
It's only a NOOB who doesn't know when and where to use the terminology.

Wow an ad hominem attempt that back fired. Ended up making you look like a ****** that doesn't know your terminology. Being badly hurt and '***** street' are synonymous. Go study up boxing some more, son, you obviously aren't well educated in it, or anything else for that matter.

I come from better genetic stock than Hatton, btw. No female member of my family would touch that ghost-colored midget with a bargepole.

That's starting to sound awfully bigoted and racist. You keep making mention of Hatton's skin color and the inherent 'inferiority' that that represents to your putatively 'superior genetic stock.' Sounds to me like a bigoted racist masquerading as a bad troll with little boxing knowledge.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Exactly, i get your point, these guys think power punching and busting a guys face up is the be all end all of fighting.

"These guys", like iron lung?

Idiot. He introduced the issue of power, busting guys up, putting them on ***** street, to the convo. He brought the whole thing up. Apropos of someone saying that Ricky would surprise everybody with the sophistication of his all-around boxing game and strategy tonight.


What planet are you backslapping pansy ****heads on?

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Right, another excuse, how many more are you going to rattle off before you realize that you have zero argument and that all evidence has owned you?

We already established it isn't an excuse if it's true. It's a factor.

Now, your argument -- which, let's be reminded, you raised apropos of someone saying that Ricky would surprise everybody with the sophistication of his all-around boxing game and strategy tonight -- is that Hatton's power is equal to Cotto's. You cited the Malignaggi and Maussa fights as evidence of this. But it has no bearing on what was being discussed. How is the leaping left-hook he used to KO Maussa and (supposedly) putting Paulie on ***** street germane? You didn't make any argument vis a vis strategy or boxing, you just started talking about power.

Another excuse as expected. We're not discussing the probability of landing or the effectiveness of particular punches, we're discussing what DID actually happen, and once again in what actually happened you, your argument, and the fighter you're defending (Cotto) are OWNED.

You mentioned the crushing leaping left-hook of doom like it's something Ricky can just throw out there against anyone - again, raised apropos of someone saying that Ricky would surprise everybody with the sophistication of his all-around boxing game and strategy tonight.


Let's see him set it up tonoight against Pacquiao.

As expected, failing to mount a convincing argument in a losing situation, you in typical fashion resort to a laughably sophmoric attempt to switch subjects and subvert the entire argument by dismissing it as suddenly irrelevant. It was strangely relevant for the past 10 pages that you were arguing it though, it's just funny how right when you get owned it magically reverts to being irrelevant. What a laugh. You're owned.

No, let's be clear. You have no argument. I joined the thread at the point some jackass (you? I can't remember) was talking hyperbolically about Hatton beating Malignaggi down worse than against Cotto, which I take entirely at face value. I then scan back a few pages to find out how Malignaggi even entered the convo and...I see you introducing the issue of power (busting guys up, putting them on ***** street) to the convo, with no detailed argument vis a vis strategy or boxing, apropos of someone saying that Ricky would surprise everybody with the sophistication of his all-around boxing game and strategy tonight.

And that's why I helped you. Because you're laboring under the misguided belief that the Malignaggi fight is somehow a forerunner of this one and the opponent Hatton will face tonight is in any way comparable with a badly below-par Malignaggi.

Wow an ad hominem attempt that back fired. Ended up making you look like a ****** that doesn't know your terminology. Being badly hurt and '***** street' are synonymous. Go study up boxing some more, son, you obviously aren't well educated in it, or anything else for that matter.

I didn't say he was "badly hurt". I said he was "badly buzzed, hurt". Being badly buzzed is synonymous with being hurt.
Being hurt doesn't mean you're staggering around the ring in circles like a drunk, which is what "***** street" means. Paulie was hurt as bad in the 7th against Ngoudjo, too, who didn't put him on ***** street either.

That's starting to sound awfully bigoted and racist. You keep making mention of Hatton's skin color and the inherent 'inferiority' that that represents to your putatively 'superior genetic stock.' Sounds to me like a bigoted racist masquerading as a bad troll with little boxing knowledge.

I'm sorry it upset you. I'm not a gollywog, though, don't worry. I was just laughing at Hatton's poor genetics and the paleness of his skin, in response to a "cheap puerile insult". Don't be paranoid. Anybody would think I was talking about your poor genetics and your pale skin.

a bad troll with little boxing knowledge.

From the guy who can't follow a thread of convo and doesn't know what the terminology means. Who talks about the crushing leaping left-hook of doom that Ricky landed once in 1,000,000 attempts as a follow-on gambit from a convo about the sophistication with which Hatton will work his way inside tonight.

By the way - when you said that bit about how you'd just owned Cotto 5 quotes back, I knew I was dealing with a fucking lunatic. I just replied the rest for fun.


NOT OWNED. Try again.