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  • MACAQUEINBLACK
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    #41
    Originally posted by iron lung
    alot more excuses there. Cotto was drained, Cotto ruined Paulie, Paulie wasn't fighting the same way, blah blah..the point is this: between the two common opponents that Hatton and Cotto have faced that I am aware of, both have disposed of them in a comparatively dominating manner. And it can be argued that Hatton did it in more impressive fashion for both since like I said 1. he stopped Paulie and Cotto didn't, he brutally KO'd and crumpled Mausa with ONE power shot leaping left hook and Cotto could only get a TKO.
    It isn't an excuse if it's true. It's something you factor in to your assessment of Hatton's performance and how it bodes for tonight.

    1. Buddy McGirt stopped Paulie. Cotto put Paulie in hospital. Hatton inflicted nowhere near as much hurt.

    2. Maussa is about the only time that leaping left hook has done the job on anybody, so we can safely call it an anomaly.

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      #42
      Originally posted by mangler
      Pac just has to move and punch. Don't dare try to stand flat footed and trade wit Hatton. Mix in movement wit his combinations and bust Hatton up gradually.
      Co-sign

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      • S A M U R A I
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        #43
        Originally posted by iron lung
        alot more excuses there. Cotto was drained, Cotto ruined Paulie, Paulie wasn't fighting the same way, blah blah..the point is this: between the two common opponents that Hatton and Cotto have faced that I am aware of, both have disposed of them in a comparatively dominating manner. And it can be argued that Hatton did it in more impressive fashion for both since like I said 1. he stopped Paulie and Cotto didn't, he brutally KO'd and crumpled Mausa with ONE power shot leaping left hook and Cotto could only get a TKO.
        Either way the point is their power is comparable (cotto holds a slightly higher KO percentage, both are in the 70% somewhere) and both of them would knock Manny Pacquiao out as you will see later tonight.
        Blah! Stop it dude. They are not excuses, they are facts. Just because they don't suit you doesn't mean they are not true.

        * At 140 Cotto is drained.
        * Malignaggi had a damaged right hand in the Hatton fight.
        * Cotto broke Malignaggi's orbital bone.
        * Buddy McGirt (renowned for being overly cautious) pulled Malignaggi out of the fight, to which Malignaggi protested.
        * Malignaggi said Cotto hits harder than Hatton.

        Yes or no?



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        • MagicManBoxing
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          #44
          Originally posted by Man In Black
          It isn't an excuse if it's true. It's something you factor in to your assessment of Hatton's performance and how it bodes for tonight.

          1. Buddy McGirt stopped Paulie. Cotto put Paulie in hospital. Hatton inflicted nowhere near as much hurt.

          2. Maussa is about the only time that leaping left hook has done the job on anybody, so we can safely call it an anomaly.
          dude just shut the hell up please you souned like a NOOB, hatton beat malignaggi worse than cott, you cant just go by facial damage come on man lol. hatton won every second of every round.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Man In Black
            It isn't an excuse if it's true. It's something you factor in to your assessment of Hatton's performance and how it bodes for tonight.

            1. Buddy McGirt stopped Paulie. Cotto put Paulie in hospital. Hatton inflicted nowhere near as much hurt.

            2. Maussa is about the only time that leaping left hook has done the job on anybody, so we can safely call it an anomaly.
            more excuses. you pac nuthuggers are amazing with your excuses.

            you say buddy mcgirt stopped the fight as if Paulie didn't have a trainer in the Cotto fight dumbass ****** do you realize that Paulie had a trainer that could have stopped the fight in the Cotto fight too? Obviously he didn't because he felt Paulie either wasn't doing as bad or that he was still IN the fight. Whereas Paulie was no where in the fight in the Hatton fight.

            2. Nice Maussa excuse. Just because Cotto couldn't do what Hatton did I guess that's a magical "anomaly."

            The evidence is there but you twats will make any excuses you can to try to blot it out. Don't be sad that Hatton dominated their common opponents in more brutal fashion than Cotto did.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Man In Black
              It isn't an excuse if it's true. It's something you factor in to your assessment of Hatton's performance and how it bodes for tonight.

              1. Buddy McGirt stopped Paulie. Cotto put Paulie in hospital. Hatton inflicted nowhere near as much hurt.

              2. Maussa is about the only time that leaping left hook has done the job on anybody, so we can safely call it an anomaly.
              So Cotto beat up Malignaggi more cause his face was messed up? dont take into account that Malignaggi won rounds and he couldnt do anything at all with Hatton and got beat in everyway shape and form lol.

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                #47
                Originally posted by iron lung
                more excuses. you pac nuthuggers are amazing with your excuses.

                you say buddy mcgirt stopped the fight as if Paulie didn't have a trainer in the Cotto fight dumbass ****** do you realize that Paulie had a trainer that could have stopped the fight in the Cotto fight too? Obviously he didn't because he felt Paulie either wasn't doing as bad or that he was still IN the fight. Whereas Paulie was no where in the fight in the Hatton fight.

                2. Nice Maussa excuse. Just because Cotto couldn't do what Hatton did I guess that's a magical "anomaly."

                The evidence is there but you twats will make any excuses you can to try to blot it out. Don't be sad that Hatton dominated their common opponents in more brutal fashion than Cotto did.
                Don't bother, mate. This website is full of Brit/Hatton haters who will do anything to discredit him.

                After tonight they'll all shut up and hopefully give him some sort of credit when Hatton DESTROYS Pacquiao..

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by S a m u r a i
                  Blah! Stop it dude. They are not excuses, they are facts. Just because they don't suit you doesn't mean they are not true.

                  * At 140 Cotto is drained.
                  * Malignaggi had a damaged right hand in the Hatton fight.
                  * Cotto broke Malignaggi's orbital bone.
                  * Buddy McGirt (renowned for being overly cautious) pulled Malignaggi out of the fight, to which Malignaggi protested.
                  * Malignaggi said Cotto hits harder than Hatton.

                  Yes or no?
                  1. wrong. Cotto is drained at the weigh in but was obviously rehydrated and weighed more than Paulie in the fight.
                  2. Paulie had a damaged hand in the Hatton fight you say? Well Paulie had a broken Jaw and broken nose through most of the Cotto fight.
                  3. Malignaggi "confused Cotto" according to critics and won several rounds. Some of the official scores included 115-112, a relatively close fight.
                  Hatton on the other hand dominated and probably won every single round.
                  4. Cotto was much bigger than Paulie on fight night, Hatton had the reach and height DISADVANTAGE and still dominated Paulie much better than Cotto did.

                  You are OWNED.

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                  • slicksouthpaw16
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by -X-
                    After watching countless hours of footage in the build up to this fight, 24/7, Sky's studio countdown, various interviews etc. I notice that Roach and Co seem to be expecting Hatton to "revert back to his old ways".

                    Watching 24/7, they seem to be training for the inevitable Hatton rough housing, bullying tactics.

                    Isn't it too much of a gamble to concentrate most of your training on an assumption that your opponent even denies? What if Hatton pressures forward but uses angles instead of wrapping his arms around Pac? Something old Floyd and Ricky both agree on, and have obviously trained for.

                    Malignaggi and a lot of people in these forums were taken by surprise the same way. A lot of people thought Malignaggi would simply tame Hatton as he charged forward, but it was in fact Malignaggi that was out boxed. I know Malignaggi is not Pacman, but I'm making the point that camps assume the wrong things and trrain for the wrong fight.

                    Should Roach really be concentrating so much on Hatton and his past wrestling style fights?
                    I agree, Hatton seemed to be very consistent in the Malinaggi fight. Not that Malinaggi is Manny, but it shows that he has the mental focus to stick to his game plan. Floyd Sr is very good at fixing his fighters, just compare the Dawson that fought Eric Harding, to the Dawson that fought Adamek. I think SR really talks to his fighters as well and spends time with them, he makes sure he gets his point across on what hes wants them to do and how he wants it done.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
                      I agree, Hatton seemed to be very consistent in the Malinaggi fight. Not that Malinaggi is Manny, but it shows that he has the mental focus to stick to his game plan. Floyd Sr is very good at fixing his fighters, just compare the Dawson that fought Eric Harding, to the Dawson that fought Adamek. I think SR really talks to his fighters as well and spends time with them, he makes sure he gets his point across on what hes wants them to do and how he wants it done.
                      You hit the nail on the head my man.

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