Lets Get This One Thing Straight!!!

[DLT]

He was going to 140. Not 147.

"Stop acting like he's jumping two divisions." He IS jumping two divisions.

yeah but my point is that people make it sound like he was a LW that was content to finish his career there and Floyd is dragging him away. Come on now. I mean Pac just jumped from LW to WW after 1 fight to go against a man way way bigger then Floyd and he's now fighting the best 140 pounder in the world but JMM cant do anything near that level despite alot of people thinking he beat Pac twice and many more thinking that he would beat everyone at 140 right now?

[DLT]

Why pick on an old lightweight Floyd? You keep on disappointing.

see, thats what Im talkin about? How can you say that Floyd is picking on him when he probably never even crossed Floyd's mind 1 single time until he called Floyd out. He's the one who asked for this fight yet everyone is acting like Floyd went to seek him out

[Kobe Bryant]

This fight seems weird to me. Marquez won't get stopped because Mayweather's attack is go the duration of the fight.

And I doubt Floyd uses his size advatage and walks Marquez down. He only walked Hatton down when he knew he was hurt.

This fight can be good or bad. I just can't put my finger on it.

[Jose Rizal]

see, thats what Im talkin about? How can you say that Floyd is picking on him when he probably never even crossed Floyd's mind 1 single time until he called Floyd out. He's the one who asked for this fight yet everyone is acting like Floyd went to seek him out

If someone like Darchinyan or even Calderon called him out, should he take them on? He should have just ignored Marquez and focused on his division. He doesn't wanna go down to 140? Then fight the top welters out there.

[Scott9945]

JMM was going to 140 anyways!!!!!! Thats the main thing everyone is overlooking. 1st off JMM called Floyd out so stop keep saying that Floyd is dragging him to WW. Floyd is the man wether you guys like it or not so if you call him out then you have to come to him. It happeneds all the time in boxing but because this is Floyd & JMM, people cant stand it. JMM has no problem with it so you shouldnt either.

Back to the main point. JMM was going to 140 anyways so stop acting like he's jumping 2 divisions. If he wouldve had that 1 fight at 140 then this fight would seem a ton more reasonable. If he had beat a Morales or Campbell at 140 then everyone would say that they would love to see JMM vs Mayweather and not one single person wouldve said have the fight at 140 unless they were idiots. In most cases if it had played out that way, the 140 guy would have to come to WW to make the fight. In this case Floyd is being more than fair at meeting him halfway. The same people who rip this fight then turn around and say that they think JMM would beat Morales, Campbell, Hatton, and Bradley at 140. Weve already seen what he could do with Pac, yet the smallest WW in the world is too much for him just a few pounds North of that division? Again, this is the guy who just KO Juan Diaz and physicaly looked very fit no matter how much you guys try to act like he looked horrible.

If Pac beats Hatton at 140 right now and Floyd let it known that he will not come down then Pac would still go to WW without a doubt to fight him. 1 reason is because he knows he has to come to the man and the other is because he knows Floyd is the smallest WW. At the least if Floyd meets him at 144 then everyone would say that its totally fair. Its the same case with JMM. He was going to 140. Stop overlooking that point to make yourself look better. If he's going to 140 then its ver fair for him to meet Floyd halfway at 144. Honestly, if I was Floyd right now I wouldnt come down at all. I would make JMM come to WW since its obvious that the haterz are going to take credit from you anyways. Stay at WW so you can keep your weight high for when you fight Mosley. If Pac wants it then make him come to WW too. The bottom line is this. No matter how much you dont want to admit it, Floyd is the biggest star in boxing right now and he's still going to be seen as the #1 guy until you beat him. Floyd can make way more money fighting a bum then a guy like Pac could and way way way more then a guy like JMM could. If they really want the major pay day then they have to come to Floyd and he shouldnt bow down to any of them.

Even tonight, Floyd's comeback will be just as big as the Hatton-Pac fight itself. Everyone will be talking about it all night and you know Merchant will ask the winner about it. Look at our boards. The guy has been retired for a long time yet the boards are still dominated by Mayweather threads 24/7. He's the man, seriously so why shouldnt JMM have to come to him? Be reasonable. I think Floyd should make JMM come to WW and then he's set. Not only that but it would be best if he suddenly put on weight in his retirment and could come into the ring at 155 pounds. If he got up to 155 and the weight looked real & natural then he dominates the WW's without a doubt. Seriously though, if JMM had one single fight at 140 like he wouldve had then everyone would be saying that they want to see him fight Floyd at 144 and if you dont beleive so then your just being a homer. The hardcore media wouldve said that JMM should go to WW to fight Floyd. I hope Floyd makes him come up at this point. If its at 144 then there is flat out no excuses

In your typically long rambling post, I can't help but notice how many times you use the word "if". Apparently it is essential anytime the *****s are propping up there hero, since if usually means hasn't actually done. Marquez has never fought above 135, and all the if's still can't change that.

[DLT]

If someone like Darchinyan or even Calderon called him out, should he take them on? He should have just ignored Marquez and focused on his division. He doesn't wanna go down to 140? Then fight the top welters out there.

Yeah because both those guys were going to a division just 1 below where Floyd is fighting and is the smallest guy at, right? Both those guys are considered the 2nd best P4P, right? Both those guys just KO Diaz at LW and had 2 super tight fights with the #1 P4P guy and the guy who everyone wants to see fight Floyd next? Both those guys would have everyone saying that they could beat everyone at 140 right now, right? Come on man, you have to be reasonable about this

[DLT]

I just read an article where Pac just said this:


Speaking about such a fight, "Pac-Man" said he'd definitely be up for it.

"I would fight him if he decided to fight again," Manny said. "I can fight at different weights. It depends on the fighter."
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That means its just like what Hatton said when he fought Floyd. They wont go to WW to fight anyone else but Floyd because he's the man and they dont beleive that he's a real WW. Thats the same way JMM feels now. He knows he has to go to the man and Floyd wont be some huge monster anyways

[portuge puncher]

ive done my fair share of floyd bashing, but you know what, you kinda make a point. if marquez is fine with it, so should we, he has a shot to beat PBF, a small chance, but everyone who puts gloves on has a chance against anyone. sure he's old, and has to gain wieght, but he's a worrior, i just hope he dosent get embarrased.

[Scott9945]

ive done my fair share of floyd bashing, but you know what, you kinda make a point. if marquez is fine with it, so should we, he has a shot to beat PBF, a small chance, but everyone who puts gloves on has a chance against anyone. sure he's old, and has to gain wieght, but he's a worrior, i just hope he dosent get embarrased.

JMM will make a career high payday, so of course he is fine with it. We are the ones footing the bill, so him being happy doesn't equate to us being fine with it.

[Jose Rizal]

Yeah because both those guys were going to a division just 1 below where Floyd is fighting and is the smallest guy at, right? Both those guys are considered the 2nd best P4P, right? Both those guys just KO Diaz at LW and had 2 super tight fights with the #1 P4P guy and the guy who everyone wants to see fight Floyd next? Both those guys would have everyone saying that they could beat everyone at 140 right now, right? Come on man, you have to be reasonable about this

Nah... I want Floyd to be reasonable about all this.

He's not just a welterweight, he "retired" p4p number 1. That makes him doubly dangerous for a guy who has yet to test the waters above 135, current p4p no. 2 or not. PBF and JMM are simply not in the same fighting range. JMM is a career featherweight. He's 2 divisions south of where Floyd's is at the moment even if he has plans to move up to Hatton territory, and his first test is gonna be Floyd? LOL. And you're talking about being reasonable.

I've also heard a lot of Floyd Stans and some Hattonuts saying Pac is untested above 130 seeing as he beat a supposed C fighter in Diaz and a virtual corpse in De la Hoya and that's why he's gonna get pasted tomorrow by a bigger and stronger guy at 140. If he's impressive against Hatton tomorrow, then you may have a point about that superfight.

Come on Floyd, just fight Shane. If you win, then after that, nobody can bull**** you anymore. Than you can start cherry pickin anyone who calls you out because you've already proven your point. JMM doesn't add to your legacy. I think it only confirms what your haters have been nagging you about for years.