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  • AssasinKing
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    #11
    Originally posted by Bhopreign
    What part of "this fight is to make the Pacquaio fight a bigger fight" dont you understand? When Floyd beats Marquez it will be two guys facing one another that both beat Marquez and Hatton. Thats the making of a big fight.
    YEE Except the difference is....Pacman beat him at his best weight.....Floyd is making him go up 2 weight divisions to fight him...and then wil probs want pac at 147........its just ******

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    • MANGLER
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      #12
      Don't get em started guys.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Bhopreign
        What part of "this fight is to make the Pacquaio fight a bigger fight" dont you understand? When Floyd beats Marquez it will be two guys facing one another that both beat Marquez and Hatton. Thats the making of a big fight.
        I understand Floyd's intentions, but what about Marquez? He's not just gonna show up for a payday and let Floyd tee off on him at an unfair catchweight. He's a serious contender, and is looking to really prove that he is the better fighter.

        This might be a tune-up for Floyd, but it isnt for Marquez. He's not trying to be Floyd's stepping stone. He's looking for the W
        Last edited by deevel79; 05-01-2009, 04:03 PM.

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          #14
          Originally posted by AssasinKing
          YEE Except the difference is....Pacman beat him at his best weight.....Floyd is making him go up 2 weight divisions to fight him...and then wil probs want pac at 147........its just ******
          Weight dont win fights.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Bhopreign
            What part of "this fight is to make the Pacquaio fight a bigger fight" dont you understand? When Floyd beats Marquez it will be two guys facing one another that both beat Marquez and Hatton. Thats the making of a big fight.
            Well QUESQUEYA argued yesterday that a fight with JMM is not a tune-up. He argued that the fight was legit at 143 or so.

            Surely fighting a small lightweight at 145 is not a real fight. It's just a tune-up. If this makes Pac-pbf bigger it's only because Joe Average doesn't understand the dynamics of boxing and because boxing journalist fail to tell the true story and instead focus on lashing some magazines over the counter by hyping it as a big fight. The JMM that fought Pac is surely not the JMM who fights pbf at 145.

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            • Bhopreign
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              #16
              Originally posted by deevel79
              I understand Floyd's intentions, but what about Marquez? He's not just gonna show up for a payday and let Floyd tee off on him at an unfair catchweight. He's a serious contender, and is looking to really prove that he is the better fighter.

              This might be a tune-up for Floyd, but it isnt for Marquez. He's not trying to be Floyd's stepping stone. He's looking for the W
              I agree with you, so what's the problem? Wow, my 4000th post.

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                #17
                Originally posted by deevel79
                Dont even bother trying to tell them how rediculous this is. If Floyd were to **** one of these Floyd groupies sisters, they would blame thier sister for dressing too sexy! There's no end to thier defending him no matter WHAT he does or tries.

                Im with u though. This fight should be taking place at 140. If Floyd is adamant on having the fight at 147, or within a few pounds from it, then he should go fight a WW. Yes Marquez is the one who called Floyd out, but im sure he didnt have intentions of fighting Floyd at 147. Marquez moved up, now let Floyd moved down, and we'll have ourselves a mega fight. If not, tell Floyd to go *** himself.
                Marquez (and all other fighters) would do anything for a couple of million. It just shouldn't fool hardcore fans is what I'm saying.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                  Well QUESQUEYA argued yesterday that a fight with JMM is not a tune-up. He argued that the fight was legit at 143 or so.

                  Surely fighting a small lightweight at 145 is not a real fight. It's just a tune-up. If this makes Pac-pbf bigger it's only because Joe Average doesn't understand the dynamics of boxing and because boxing journalist fail to tell the true story and instead focus on lashing some magazines over the counter by hyping it as a big fight. The JMM that fought Pac is surely not the JMM who fights pbf at 145.
                  Show me where Floyd is much bigger or even bigger than Marquez. Just because Floyd moved up alot earlier than Marquez so he could make more money doesnt mean he is much bigger or even bigger. Skills and smarts win fights, thats why guys in the past were able to go up and beat bigger champs.

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                  • Benny Leonard
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by AssasinKing
                    YEE Except the difference is....Pacman beat him at his best weight.....Floyd is making him go up 2 weight divisions to fight him...and then wil probs want pac at 147........its just ******
                    Pac's already fought and won at 147, so game on.

                    What is ****** is having fighters drain weight for the scales and then blow up 10-20 pounds for fight-time. Floyd is just skipping that. Floyd has shown up from 146-149 for his WW bouts. How much do JrWW show up at for their fight-time weight?
                    Pac was 147 for Diaz which was below JrWW/140. Hatton is..........


                    I've stated the reasons before why Floyd is fighting JMM so I don't think I need to go back over them.

                    My preference has always been for Floyd to fight Cotto....and then others.

                    At the end of the day, "Name" counts. Plus, fighters in the past have fought opponents way out of their divisions and won. Fight the Fighter, especially the one you called out....at their healthy best instead of wanting them to drain themselves and show up weak.


                    By the way, what's JMM fight-time weight?
                    I'm not really sure what it is.


                    And for "best weight": Floyd's best weight was from 130-140...not 147/WW.
                    Last edited by Benny Leonard; 05-01-2009, 04:12 PM.

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                    • AssasinKing
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Bhopreign
                      Show me where Floyd is much bigger or even bigger than Marquez. Just because Floyd moved up alot earlier than Marquez so he could make more money doesnt mean he is much bigger or even bigger. Skills and smarts win fights, thats why guys in the past were able to go up and beat bigger champs.
                      Ye but floyd has been there for years now...you cant expect someone to just move up 2 weight divisions and be completely used to the weight, bodys dont work like that and im sure you know that.......Use your common sense

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