Ricky Hatton-Manny Pacquiao: Pre-SuperFight Report Card

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  • S A M U R A I
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    #21
    Originally posted by hammerhiem
    Me either, but this is Cliff writing, his head is firmly inserted up Pac's arse.

    How can a guy with a 69% ko rate @140+ be a B- yet a guy with a 60% ko rate at 130+ be a B?

    Thats some crazy talk right there.
    LOL Hammer. Not this KO ratio **** again.

    Cliff's a great writer, IMO.



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    • hammerhiem
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      #22
      Originally posted by S a m u r a i
      LOL Hammer. Not this KO ratio **** again.

      Cliff's a great writer, IMO.
      I'm not buying Pac has huge power @140 sorry, it just doesn't have any evidence to back it up.

      everyone seems to have bought into the myth that only Pacman can punch hard, not Zoo, not hatton, Not anyone.

      The higher the weight division you fight at the harder you have to to hit the other guy to knock him down. almost every single boxer in the history of boxing who moves up divisions has less punch power teh higher he goes, so if someone like Lazcano has a similar Ko to Pac but has fought consistantly at a higher weight you have to agree it's LIKELY he has a harder punch.

      it's not like Pac has only fought A grade fighters in his fights, he has plenty of bums and shot old guys on his resume too.

      As for cliff, you like him because he is practically sucking pac off in every artical he writes, he's totally unobjective and hasn't wrote a decent fair assesment ever, as far as i've read.

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      • Mayfeather
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        #23
        I agree that Hatton wont be stopped by Manny. I know Manny destroyed DLH but he was way gone before the fight. Hatton will be too powerful for him. The only way Manny will win is if Hatton cannot conect on the night

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          #24
          Originally posted by hammerhiem
          I'm not buying Pac has huge power @140 sorry, it just doesn't have any evidence to back it up.

          everyone seems to have bought into the myth that only Pacman can punch hard, not Zoo, not hatton, Not anyone.

          The higher the weight division you fight at the harder you have to to hit the other guy to knock him down. almost every single boxer in the history of boxing who moves up divisions has less punch power teh higher he goes, so if someone like Lazcano has a similar Ko to Pac but has fought consistantly at a higher weight you have to agree it's LIKELY he has a harder punch.

          it's not like Pac has only fought A grade fighters in his fights, he has plenty of bums and shot old guys on his resume too.

          As for cliff, you like him because he is practically sucking pac off in every artical he writes, he's totally unobjective and hasn't wrote a decent fair assesment ever, as far as i've read.
          You're wrong about Cliff. I like him because he's a good writer and have always said so, long before this fight ever got mentioned.

          As for Manny's power, he's an accumulation KO artist. Who said he has amazing power at 140? Obviously, this isn't proven. I'm not sure why you're making a fuss about it mate.



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          • bboy80
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            #25
            The write ups on the fight seem to be very pro Pac which i disagree too, I also don't belive Pac has greater power than Hatton full stop never mind what weight there at.

            He gives Hatton a B- for power but then goes on to say Hattons is the stronger guy. He seems a be confused does Cliff.

            Anyways it going to be a classic match up which imo Hatton will come up trumps.. Well he best do anyway ive got fifty quid on him to win...

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            • trainhard_187
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              #26
              Originally posted by hammerhiem
              I'm not buying Pac has huge power @140 sorry, it just doesn't have any evidence to back it up.

              everyone seems to have bought into the myth that only Pacman can punch hard, not Zoo, not hatton, Not anyone.

              The higher the weight division you fight at the harder you have to to hit the other guy to knock him down. almost every single boxer in the history of boxing who moves up divisions has less punch power teh higher he goes, so if someone like Lazcano has a similar Ko to Pac but has fought consistantly at a higher weight you have to agree it's LIKELY he has a harder punch.

              it's not like Pac has only fought A grade fighters in his fights, he has plenty of bums and shot old guys on his resume too.

              As for cliff, you like him because he is practically sucking pac off in every artical he writes, he's totally unobjective and hasn't wrote a decent fair assesment ever, as far as i've read.
              You will see evidence tomorrow when Hatton is battered, cut up, and tentative to attack after tasting Pacs power. I promise you.

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              • Pullcounter
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                #27
                Originally posted by hammerhiem
                How can a guy with a 69% ko rate @140+ be a B- yet a guy with a 60% ko rate at 130+ be a B?

                Thats some crazy talk right there.
                because hatton spent most of his career fighting bums in manchester. once hatton steped up in class his KO percentage went down.

                pac's been KOing the unKOable...

                Originally posted by Ravishing
                I expect a grueling fight with both having moments, but Pacquiao's speed will be the deciding factor and Hatton will be overwhelmed.
                no, the determining factor will be bayless. if bayless lets hatton rough-house and fight dirty pac is doomed. if bayless follows the rules hatton will lose.

                Originally posted by Mayfeather
                I agree that Hatton wont be stopped by Manny. I know Manny destroyed DLH but he was way gone before the fight. Hatton will be too powerful for him. The only way Manny will win is if Hatton cannot conect on the night
                no, hatton can be stopped if he gets over aggressive and sloppy. hatton is the type of guy that likes to KO or be KOed... that is unless he's learn to humble himself since the floyd fight.

                Originally posted by bboy80
                He gives Hatton a B- for power but then goes on to say Hattons is the stronger guy. He seems a be confused does Cliff.
                not really... just cause you're stronger doesn't mean you're a heavier puncher. just look at tim bradley... he's strong as an ox, but his punches don't have KO power on them.

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                • shisham
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                  #28
                  Manny will not have devasting power at 140

                  I keep hearing everyone talk about Manny's blazing speed and power. Hi is not at 130 anymore and he hit Dela Hoya several times before he eventually hurt him-Dela Hoya was a dead man walking in the ring. Pacman is overrated when he throws combinations he is wild and doesn't protect himself. I agree with Mayweather Sr, when he says he looks like a novice.

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                  • WESS
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Mayfeather
                    Manny wont stop Hatton
                    ummmmmmm didnt "they" say the SAME thing about Mayweather?

                    People DO get stronger, Manny has proved as he moves up he gains power. Now will he have MORE power than Hatton? IMO no, but speed kills and we will see Hatton "DESTROYED" just as Mayweather did.

                    Everyone will be saying Pac will beat Mayweather after this performance.

                    Pac by late KO/stoppage.......

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter
                      because hatton spent most of his career fighting bums in manchester. once hatton steped up in class his KO percentage went down.

                      pac's been KOing the unKOable...


                      no, the determining factor will be bayless. if bayless lets hatton rough-house and fight dirty pac is doomed. if bayless follows the rules hatton will lose.


                      no, hatton can be stopped if he gets over aggressive and sloppy. hatton is the type of guy that likes to KO or be KOed... that is unless he's learn to humble himself since the floyd fight.



                      not really... just cause you're stronger doesn't mean you're a heavier puncher. just look at tim bradley... he's strong as an ox, but his punches don't have KO power on them.
                      pac's been KOing the unKOable...
                      haha nice way of putting it!

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