Would Mayweather be a draw if he didnt hype himself up?

[Kevin Jesus]

funny with all this baldo ppv talk. first off it was 325k on the ppv from what i remember, and furthermore the fight was so quiet on tv due to the fact that no one was there watching it. floyd is not all that as a draw ie. odlh, and hatton. he does ok, but lets be real. he is not a great draw, nor will he be if he has to sell a ppv on his own. the nuthuggin here is so pathetic, and elementary.

That's still 3 times more than what any other boxer would sell against Baldomir.

[Burner]

against mostly smaller opposition. Mostly every bigger fighter does that, so whats the big deal?

Oh there your are buddy...I need your take on this thread topic....

Thanks dont duck it like the other cowards.......

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266095&page=8

[JAB5239]

The point is this...

Pacquiao vs De La Hoya=1.2 Mill PPVs
Mayweather vs De La Hoya=2.4 Mill PPVs

Lmao!! You're putting your own foot in your mouth here. Since Floyd is such a PPV God there is no excuse to not fight the best welterweights. As you have think you have proven, not only will he make money, but he'd be beating the toughest fighters in HIS division. He said if he came back it would be for legacy, so what excuses do the nuthuggers have for these fights not happening?

[Vasyl’s dad]

But if he's as big an attraction as you and others have claimed there isn't any reason not to make these fights. He'd make mad bank and be taking out the best in his division as well as shutting up the critics. So what is the problem?

Thats the intriguing part. On one hand, hes a mega star with all the popularity in the world.

But he needs to have opponents who have high PPVs?

How does that even make sense?


Isn't the point of being a draw and large name being able to bring out crowds on your own accord ala DLH, Tyson, Leonard, etc?

Then, on the other hand, the stans talk about how easy these fights would be.

Sounds like a win/win situation to me.

Fight as a mega star while raking in huge amounts of money against someone hes already labeled as "easy work".

So like you, I ask, whats the problem?

Well, this is where it gets tricky. For one, we know he isn't half the star he or his fans claim to be. Second, we know he can't carry anywhere near a million PPVs on his own name. Last, we know he won't fight anyone in his own division, much less a top 5 fighter in that division.

I love it. The more time goes on that he takes on smaller and older fighters, or just simply refuses to fight, the more stans that jump off the bandwagon and see him for what he is.

A talker and not a walker.

Sounds a bit like Hiphop beefs. All talk, no action.

[Ravishing]

Case closed.

The biggest draws in the sport.

1. Oscar
2. Hatton
3. Mayweather
4. Pacman

Overall, the PPV sales are meaningless to fans be it they see not 1 cent from those figures.

Oscar De La Hoya was the top draw in Boxing way beyond his best days, so it's realistic that the best fighters aren't so much the draw more than those who have a certain persona to go along with them being good fighters. In the end it doesn't make one fighter better overall than another.

Many would argue Miguel Cotto would beat ODH, Hatton, and Pacquiao...but Cotto isn't truly a big PPV star but is indeed one of the sport's Superstars.

PPV buyrates IMO is a shallow way to prove one fighter is better than another.

[Kevin Jesus]

funny with all this baldo ppv talk. first off it was 325k on the ppv from what i remember, and furthermore the fight was so quiet on tv due to the fact that no one was there watching it. floyd is not all that as a draw ie. odlh, and hatton. he does ok, but lets be real. he is not a great draw, nor will he be if he has to sell a ppv on his own. the nuthuggin here is so pathetic, and elementary.

Keep hating, You're most likely one of his biggest fans in disguise and you're probably gonna order the Marquez/Mayweather PPV and if not it's because you can't afford it and you'll wildly look for stream or some where to watch your idol.

[MELLY-MEL...]

Keep hating, You're most likely one of his biggest fans in disguise and you're probably gonna order the Marquez/Mayweather PPV and if not it's because you can't afored it and you'll wildly look for s tream or somwhere to watch your idol.

only a junevile moron starts with all the hate bull****. good job exposing your inferior intellect. furthermore, i get all ppv's as i am a fan of many, many fighters, and Boxing itself. you should try it sometime. it is also extremely funny that you run to call someone a hater, rather than justify your nuthugging with facts, or a real viable argument, sad, but it's expected.

[JAB5239]

Fringe contender/Journeyman=Lineal Champ, beat the #1 WW in the World(Zab Judah) to become number 1.

It was supposed to be Judah vs Mayweather but Mayweather instead fought both of them.

Your point?

Point is, title or not Baldomir has never proven himself more than a fringe contender, while Margarito had already been calling for Floyd and was being touted as the most avoided man in boxing. Funny how you will use the "lineal champ" angle to justify that fight but excuse the Margarito, Cotto, Williams, and Mosely fight from happening. Hmmm!!

[Kevin Jesus]

Lmao!! You're putting your own foot in your mouth here. Since Floyd is such a PPV God there is no excuse to not fight the best welterweights. As you have think you have proven, not only will he make money, but he'd be beating the toughest fighters in HIS division. He said if he came back it would be for legacy, so what excuses do the nuthuggers have for these fights not happening?

Who are these fighters? The guy that shamelessly took a knee in front of all of his fans? and dethroned the P4P #1 fighter in the world, Michael Jennings? and beat the then reigning #1 WW in the world, Alfonso Gomez?

If you mean Shane Mosley, the guy that destroyed the then #1 WW Margarito then, Co-sign, Floyd needs to fight Mosley which is going to happen.

[Benny Leonard]