Pacquiaos Achievements Are Blown Out Of Proportion

[-Antonio-]

The first Morales fight wasnt a blow out. In fact there was only one round where I thought Morales clearly won it. Every other round Pac was very competitive.

[MANGLER]

EM was fine in the 2nd fight. Good win. EM was shot in the 3rd fight, but still a meaningful win for Pac cuz it gave him the 2-1 victory in the trilogy.

JMM gets too much cred for comin back in the 1st fight. Pac won that one clearly imo. Rematch was 6-6 split imo, but Pac had the lone KD, and that stole it for him. Yea, JMM woulda won both if he hadn't got dropped, but he did get dropped.

Diaz only matters cuz it got him a belt. Pac's performance itself was a gr8 one, but the actual victory don't count for much at all.

DLH was supposed to kill poor lil Pac. He gets mad props for that win, even tho DLH didn't look strong.

[Pullcounter]

1) 106 - 147 lbs
2) em 2x, mab 2x, jmm 2x
3) lineal champ in 3 divisions

can't say that pac is overrated at all

[loui_ludwig]

Wrong, he was the underdog since he was coming off a loss to Barrera. A 2/1 underdog. It's mentioned on the British Broadcast of the Morales vs Pacquiao I fight.

He was even more of a underdog after Raheem had just white washed Morales and proved he was shot.

Raheem was running all night long against Erik.

Morales was the favorite in the rematch.

[loui_ludwig]

I totally agree with this guy. Whenever Pacquiao fights a capable fighter in his prime he has problems.

And your post doesn't suprise some of us.

[loui_ludwig]

don't you know that a split decision fight is a robbery now?

Its a robbery when Pac is the winner.

[Pacmanjay]

and of course both fights jmm fought pacquiao he was 36 right?

marquez isn't even 36 yet.

they fought last year and 5 years ago. you do the math.

the fights were a draw and a split decision win. it could have gone either way.

david diaz was a top 5 ranked lightweight.

he was one of only 2 guys that had belts at the time. he had the wbc and juan diaz had the rest.

juan diaz lost to campbell before pacquiao even fought marquez at 130 yet.

nate campbell didn't get a belt 'til he beat juan diaz the month pacquiao fought marquez.

katsidis wasn't really in the picture yet. he got his name out there after the war with casa which took place after they already planned a diaz fight.

pac just fought marquez at 130.

david diaz was a good , solid fight for his 1st fight at 135.

most people take a tuneup in a new weight division. pacquiao's was a top 5 ranked fighter with a belt. not bad i say.

***ing PWN3D

[loui_ludwig]

highway robbery......marquez/pac 2.....you a nuthugger if you think differently

- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights

Those reporters/media you psted, even though they scored it for JMM, they said it was a closed fight that could have gone either way and it is in no way of a robbery. JMM landed more punches cuz during the round were Pac had a cut, he didn't throw ****. Those media said the judges must stand and respected. They said there wrere rounds that were closed.

[Pacmanjay]

all those guys you named hatton beat anally **** little paccy....urango was undefeated at the time...maussua was recognized as a legit jr, welter at the time, unlike diaz at lightweight.....and collazo would face murder charges if he fought pacman

sure pac has the better overall resume.....

and deserves credit for winning, but people do blow his "hall of fame" status up....best hall of fame wins are MAB 1 and the Marquez wins....the rest are just wins to add to the W column.

You fool, the reason Pac is considered great is because he fought tough opponent after tough opponent after tough opponent.

Check ANY great fighters resume barely ANY fighters fight top competition after another after another.

Even other ATG don't have dozens of victims on their resume. You ***ing fool, what makes a "resume" is when a fighter upsets and then continues to outperform, just like Pac did, for years in a row. NO FIGHTER fights 10+ top five fighters in a row.

[loui_ludwig]

Why are there no question as why Morales put in the contract that Pacquiao has to wear Winning gloves on their 1st figth if gloves doesn't matter. So why Morales insist on it?

Pacquiao isn't the only one who fought fighters not in their prime.

Hatton vs Tszyu
Dela Hoya vs Chavez
Morales vs Zaragoza
JuanMa vs Penalosa