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  • Pacmanjay
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    #21
    Originally posted by Maestro USA
    If they are dead even it means Pacquiao has been picking on smaller fighters for a very long time...

    He did outweigh Marquez by 4lbs. He came in a whopping 145lbs in the 130lb division.

    Pacquiao grew in size slowly and steadily through the years in each and every fight. He is genetically gifted. As long as he eats and trains he will gain muscle. Early on in his career he was still very poor and was malnutritioned until he came to America and got big fights. It's no surprise that someone with his genetics gains size as they strength train. And the fact that after growing in size, he doesn't want to fight in lower weight classes anymore.

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    • Pacmanjay
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      #22
      Originally posted by J.B.moneY.
      theres a difference in bein a big guy and the "naturally" bigger guy....hatton is the naturally bigger guy......its like i'm 150 pounds right now with my build, its just whats natural......now i could gain weight and blow up to to 175, but 175 fighters would still be the naturally bigger guy, because my frame is of a natural 150 pound guy.....and if i went up to 175 I would still have the punch of a 150 pound guy.......thas what they mean by whos the bigger man in boxing....

      hatton is the naturally bigger man at 140 over pac.

      ****** ***ing ignorant comment. Pacquiao was malnutrioned for the most of his career until he came to America. So just because he couldn't eat right he is naturally smaller? Then if we somehow starve Hatton and he becomes a 110 lb skeleton, is he now naturally smaller?

      Size has to do with frame. Its about how much lean mass one can put on at a certain weight. And as you can see from the pics, Hatton and Pac have pretty similar sized frames.

      .........

      naturallly bigger guy.....

      wtf...

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      • Pacmanjay
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        #23
        Originally posted by Pudgemeister
        Good post.





        size is about FRAME. there's a reason why some fighters can go up so much weight classes.

        Holyfield, Toney, Moorer all had the frame to put on the mass. Their bones were big enought that they could still put on mass and compete at higher weight classes.

        Witht that "naturally bigger" dumb logic, then how is it that Moorer who fought at 175 lbs and Toney who fought even lighter ones, were able to fight guys who were "naturally bigger" then them? Did they get bigger "naturally"?

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        • J.B.moneY.
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          #24
          Originally posted by Pacmanjay



          size is about FRAME. there's a reason why some fighters can go up so much weight classes.

          Holyfield, Toney, Moorer all had the frame to put on the mass. Their bones were big enought that they could still put on mass and compete at higher weight classes.

          Witht that "naturally bigger" dumb logic, then how is it that Moorer who fought at 175 lbs and Toney who fought even lighter ones, were able to fight guys who were "naturally bigger" then them? Did they get bigger "naturally"?
          thanks for proving my point.......moorer is a natural light heavyweight....he gained mass to go up to heavyweight....hes NATURAL(frame) build is that of a light heavyweight......that means the heavyweight guys he fought were NATURALLY bigger.....you said the exact samethin i said in my previous post kid...


          roach said that pac was dehydrated a bit in the 2nd marquez fight, and made 135 pretty well.....pac at this stage of his carear is a natural lightweight......hatton this has always been his weight at 140....its whats natural to his body and frame....not pac....use logic

          hatton is the bigger guy....anybody that doesnt understand what being "bigger: means in boxing clearly doesnt follow the sport.

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          • Maestro USA
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            #25
            Originally posted by dibzvincent143
            ******.pac beef up when he fought DLH coz its at 147.
            beef up? He was a welterweight fighting at 130 way before the Oscar fight. The whole "Pac moving up in weight" is a myth. He simply doesn't have to force himself to make weight as much, his natural size has been a light welterweight for a VERY long time.

            Pac at 130 = 145

            Pac at 147 = 148

            He has been a medium size man fighting little men for a long time.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
              If if they are dead even in size hatton will be done in 5 ROunds!!!!!!!!!!
              Exactly brothah!

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                #27
                Originally posted by Maestro USA
                beef up? He was a welterweight fighting at 130 way before the Oscar fight. The whole "Pac moving up in weight" is a myth. He simply doesn't have to force himself to make weight as much, his natural size has been a light welterweight for a VERY long time.

                Pac at 130 = 145

                Pac at 147 = 148

                He has been a medium size man fighting little men for a long time.
                lol the only time PAC started to outweight his opponent at fight night was at PAC-EM 3 ...

                not to mention that his opponent is about within 2 pounds of his weight...

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by JOM'S
                  lol the only time PAC started to outweight his opponent at fight night was at PAC-EM 3 ...

                  not to mention that his opponent is about within 2 pounds of his weight...
                  Morales was shot after Raheem.

                  He outweighed Marquez by 4lbs, the only elite fighter he faced since Barrera 1.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Maestro USA
                    Morales was shot after Raheem.

                    He outweighed Marquez by 4lbs, the only elite fighter he faced since Barrera 1.
                    Who'd you pick then??

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                    • Pacmanjay
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Maestro USA
                      beef up? He was a welterweight fighting at 130 way before the Oscar fight. The whole "Pac moving up in weight" is a myth. He simply doesn't have to force himself to make weight as much, his natural size has been a light welterweight for a VERY long time.

                      Pac at 130 = 145

                      Pac at 147 = 148

                      He has been a medium size man fighting little men for a long time.

                      ..................the ..................***ing.....................ignor ance...........................


                      Pac first weighed above 140 lbs on fight night (unofficial weigh in) in the 3RD MORALES FIGHT. He weighed 144 lbs that night. That is probably the point where Freddie and the team realized Pac is too big to make those weight classes anymore. NOT a VERY LONG TIME.

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