168 lbs - The new BEST Division in Boxing.

[Parody]

Pacman Hatton Mayweather Williams Bradley Ortiz(One day)

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Which weight class is this then? Because half of the fighters are from 140, who have never fought as welterweight, and even if they have they dont plan too in the future.

Williams isn't fighting at 147 anymore, he has said it, unless its Cotto, Mosley or a BIG fight.

[THe TRiNiTY]

Lightweight, Welterweight and JR. Featherweight... all could be considered better.

122:
Rendall Munroe
Daniel Ponce De Leon
Juan Manuel Lopez
Israel Vazquez (champion, p4p)
Steve Molitor
Jhonny Gonzalez
Rafael Marquez (former champion, p4p)
Celestino Caballero

135:
Juan Manuel Marquez (c, p4p)
Edwin Valero
Joe Casamayor (former c, former p4p)
Breides Prescott
Juan Diaz
Michael Katsidis
Ronaldo Reyes
Yuri Romanov
Joan Guzman
Anthony Peterson
Ali Funeka

147:
Shane Mosley (p4p)
Miguel Cotto (p4p)
*Manny Pacquiao (p4p number 1)
*Paul Williams
Antonio Margarito (former p4p)
Joshua Clottey
Andre Berto
Luis Collazo

The p4p list contains NO 168 pounders.

[Parody]

Lightweight, Welterweight and JR. Featherweight... all could be considered better.

122:
Rendall Munroe
Daniel Ponce De Leon
Juan Manuel Lopez
Israel Vazquez (champion, p4p)
Steve Molitor
Jhonny Gonzalez
Rafael Marquez (former champion, p4p)
Celestino Caballero

135:
Juan Manuel Marquez (c, p4p)
Edwin Valero
Joe Casamayor (former c, former p4p)
Breides Prescott
Juan Diaz
Michael Katsidis
Ronaldo Reyes
Yuri Romanov
Joan Guzman
Anthony Peterson
Ali Funeka

147:
Shane Mosley (p4p)
Miguel Cotto (p4p)
*Manny Pacquiao (p4p number 1)
*Paul Williams
Antonio Margarito (former p4p)
Joshua Clottey
Andre Berto
Luis Collazo

Those guys are not fighting at 147, only Margarito but he is banned for the plaster.

@ 135 - The bold ones are not elites, I can also mention: Edison Miranda, Librado Andrade, Allan Green, Jean Pascal, Jeff Lacy, Denis Inkin and Sakio Bika @ 168 lbs but I chose not too.

And Casamayor is completely done.

If i mention the fighters like you have, then the 168 list would look like this:

Mikkel Kessler
Lucian Bute
Arthur Abraham
Kelly Pavlik
Carl Froch
Andre Ward
Chad Dawson
Jermain Taylor
Andre Direll
Karoly Balzsay
Jean Pascal
Edison Miranda
Jeff Lacy
Allan Green
Librado Andrade
Denis Inkin
Sam Soliman
Anthony Hanshaw
Jaidon Codrington
Adonis Stevenson
Sakio Bika

[Dubious-Dutch]

Lightweight, Welterweight and JR. Featherweight... all could be considered better.

122:
Rendall Munroe
Daniel Ponce De Leon
Juan Manuel Lopez
Israel Vazquez (champion, p4p)
Steve Molitor
Jhonny Gonzalez
Rafael Marquez (former champion, p4p)
Celestino Caballero

135:
Juan Manuel Marquez (c, p4p)
Edwin Valero
Joe Casamayor (former c, former p4p)
Breides Prescott
Juan Diaz
Michael Katsidis
Ronaldo Reyes
Yuri Romanov
Joan Guzman
Anthony Peterson
Ali Funeka

147:
Shane Mosley (p4p)
Miguel Cotto (p4p)
*Manny Pacquiao (p4p number 1)
*Paul Williams
Antonio Margarito (former p4p)
Joshua Clottey
Andre Berto
Luis Collazo

The p4p list contains NO 168 pounders.

Just look at the fighters in the division.

[THe TRiNiTY]

Those guys are not fighting at 147, only Margarito but he is banned for the plaster.

But being suspended doesn't disqualify you from being ranked. You lose ranking in moving up or down, or losing fights. Not from taking off a year, which is essentially what a suspension is for fighters.

In terms of Paul Williams, he's a player in the division, as is Manny Pacquiao. Manny is even ranked by The Ring Magazine at 147. If you took off 147, you still have to prove dominance over 122 and 135, with the roster at 168, and the numbers don't provide that.

122 or 135 > 168.

[Rich Loc]

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Which weight class is this then? Because half of the fighters are from 140, who have never fought as welterweight, and even if they have they dont plan too in the future.

Williams isn't fighting at 147 anymore, he has said it, unless its Cotto, Mosley or a BIG fight.

Then why do you got AA and Pavlik both 160 fighters. Dawson is 175 fighter.

Williams said he is willing to go back down to 147

[THe TRiNiTY]

Just look at the fighters in the division.

I have, it's a great division. It's just not the best.

Bute was also killed by a guy that Kessler beat. Kessler couldn't take the torch from the guy who vacated. Andrade can't get the big win yet. Froch could have lost, reasonably. Taylor and Lacy are as much as done. Anthony Mundine was beating by SVEN OTTKE. I'm sorry, that doesn't cut it for me.

It's still a great list.

Mikkel Kessler
Carl Froch
Luciab Bute
Librado Andrade
Andre Ward
Andre Dirrell

But, look at things this way. If you took it figher to fighter, 135 would outmatch them.

If you took it like this, the lists embodied ONE fighter, 135 would be the superior fighter.

[BmoreBrawler]

Fighters:

Mikkel Kessler
Lucian Bute
Arthur Abraham
Kelly Pavlik
Carl Froch
Andre Ward
Chad Dawson (Recently said he wouldn't mind moving to 168)
Jermain Taylor
Andre Direll
Karoly Balzsay (New champion, with fast hands and a decent amatuer career)

Here are some highlights of Balls_say:



The last seconds of the video are him vs Denis Inkin...



168 lbs has a lot of potential.

yep, I think you are right, particularly with Paul Williams moving up in weight, Floyd in retirement, and Margarito out in disgrace.

[Parody]

Then why do you got AA and Pavlik both 160 fighters. Dawson is 175 fighter.

Williams said he is willing to go back down to 147

Abraham and Pavlik have BOTH fought at super middleweight before. Abraham in his rematch with Miranda, and Pavlik in his rematch with Taylor, he even went above 168 to fight Hopkins, besides these fights they have had atleast 10-12 fights above 160.

Dawson said he move down to 168 if he has to, to get the bigger fights:

http://www.boxingscene.com/index.php?m=show&id=19613

[Rich Loc]

Abraham and Pavlik have BOTH fought at super middleweight before. Abraham in his rematch with Miranda, and Pavlik in his rematch with Taylor, he even went above 168 to fight Hopkins, besides these fights they have had atleast 10-12 fights above 160.

Dawson said he move down to 168 if he has to, to get the bigger fights:

http://www.boxingscene.com/index.php?m=show&id=19613

Hatton Pacman BOTH fought at WW before. And both will be moving up. Just like Ortiz and Bradley will.

Williams said he move down to 147 if he has to, to get big fights AS WELL