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after watching the espn classic fight featuring pernell, i came to the conclusion that his defense was flawed, and his offense was no where near on the level of floyd. He was dropped twice due to being off balance, and his opponent was not world class. This tells me one thing, floyd would destroy pernell prime for prime!
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Which fight was it? The fight against Diosbelys Hurtado?
Floyd Mayweather said that Pernell Whitaker would have been his toughest match-up out of all the fighters that he has seen. -
he may be hard to hit, but thats about it. he wasnt an offensive threat, and mayweather defense was just as good, if not betterOriginally posted by TheManchine View PostComment
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First off, who is Sweat Pea?
And secondly, this was not a prime Whitaker. Whitaker was 33 and the effects of his partying were starting to catch up to him. Hurtado made him become the aggressor, which isn't Whitaker's style. Whitaker is the consumate boxer who leads his opponents into counters. Whitaker was taken out of his element.
Mayweather is a very different style from Hurtado. Mayweather has long had issues with southpaws, going back to the amateurs when he used to get roughed up by Terrance Cauthen and David Diaz. His second pro fight against Reggie Sanders, a southpaw, made him look like an average fighter. And of course the Corley fight, where he was rocked by a right hook.
There was no trickier southpaw than Whitaker. Whitaker also didn't commit to his punches, which would make it much easier for Mayweather to counter.
You can't compare common opponents and draw any real conclusions but consider Whitaker and Mayweather's fights with DLH. DLH was an unbeaten prime fighter when he fought an old Whitaker and many people thought Whitaker handled him and beat him. Mayweather fought an old DLH and was held to a SD.
I'm not saying Whitaker would beat Mayweather; I'm saying it's ridiculous to make an assertion based on the Hurtado fight.Comment
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He wasn't a big puncher, but he was a decent puncher who could get your respect. Believe it, you cannot win title belts in 4 divisions if you're not "an offensive threat."Originally posted by a-raines21 View PostComment
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another ****** post from you. so lets get this right
antonio margarito is a bum
shane mosley hits harder than felix trinidad
james kirkland kos paul williams
floyd mayweather kos shane mosley
zab judah is more skilled than juan manuel marquez
zab judah would beat shane mosley today
carlos quintana is not a good fighter
pernell whitaker is not in the same class as floyd mayweatherComment
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So you would be crazy if thinking Whitaker would defeat Floyd.....
And I to would be interested to know which Whitaker fight you were watching, was it Diosbelys Hurtado? And his defence was on the level of Floyd's and he was proably harder to hit. And just because he was dropped, does this make hid defence weak?
Mayweather was dropped against Zab Judah. And you say Whitaker's offence was weak, he may have not been a power puncher, but he was very accurate if you watch fights like Jose Luis Ramirez 2, Julio Cesar Chavez and many others.
And this may anger many Mayweather fans, but I have no dout in my mind Whitaker was the better figher and shall be remembered as the better fighter than Floyd Mayweather ever was......
One hell of a ****** statement from you, and by what you post you really do lack Boxing knowlodge.Comment
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says who? u said reggie sanders made floyd look average? ill have to disagree.... and he knocked corley down about 4 or 5 times in that fight. and he destroyed zab judah. out of 44 fights, pernerll only had 17kos.... he wasnt an offensive threatOriginally posted by Mr. Ryan View Post
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a counterpunch is a defensive move imo. jatComment
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those arent my quotes ****tard! and let me explain something to you, and anyone else who usually misinterpret my posts...Originally posted by boxasmash View Post
antonio margarito is a bum- im sure many will agree
shane mosley hits harder than felix trinidad- i said this because it was my understanding that tito used plaster
james kirkland kos paul williams- this is very possible, as we have not seen williams hit by someone with kirklands power
floyd mayweather kos shane mosley- i didnt say this, i said he would beat mosley. however,sorces tell me that shane is losing it mentally, so this is not very possible
zab judah is more skilled than juan manuel marquez- he was, not is.... at 140, zab had num 1 p4p potential
zab judah would beat shane mosley today- never said that..... i was talkin about last may
carlos quintana is not a good fighter- he isnt imo
pernell whitaker is not in the same class as floyd mayweather- u read my post and tell me if these words were in it!Last edited by a-raines21; 04-25-2009, 07:30 PM.Comment
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After his father saw him fight Reggie Sanders, he told his uncle to make sure he never again fought a southpaw. Corley had his own limitations, of course Mayweather was the better fighter but he was able to have success, especially with the right hook. Watch the Sanders fight, he gets hit with more right hooks than he should. Judah knocked Mayweather down with a right hook as well.Originally posted by a-raines21 View Post
Not scoring knockouts doesn't mean you're not an offensive threat; that's just statistics. Statistics can give you an idea of how what someone is potential but when you factor in that Whitaker didn't fight a knockout strategy, it explains his record.
Spadafora and Malignaggi were boxers with no power and they weren't able to last on the world stage. You can't keep world class fighters off of you without some sort of punching power.
A counter punch is an offensive move that comes about after a good defensive move creates an opening.Comment
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