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  • #11
    Have you seen any other fights besides the Hurtado fight from Whitaker?

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Southpaw16bf View Post
      So you would be crazy if thinking Whitaker would defeat Floyd.....

      And I to would be interested to know which Whitaker fight you were watching, was it Diosbelys Hurtado? And his defence was on the level of Floyd's and he was proably harder to hit. And just because he was dropped, does this make hid defence weak?

      Mayweather was dropped against Zab Judah. And you say Whitaker's offence was weak, he may have not been a power puncher, but he was very accurate if you watch fights like Jose Luis Ramirez 2, Julio Cesar Chavez and many others.

      And this may anger many Mayweather fans, but I have no dout in my mind Whitaker was the better figher and shall be remembered as the better fighter than Floyd Mayweather ever was......

      One hell of a ****** statement from you, and by what you post you really do lack Boxing knowlodge.
      are you serious? you cant be.....

      first off, there is no way pernell is more accurate than floyd.

      2nd, floyd maywether got hit less, while expending less energy, which is much mor effective imo... pernell just looked good

      3rd, zab judah was a world class fighter with legit speed and power. and on top of that, he could floyd off balance. it happens. but that bum that pernell fought dropped him twice.... there is really no excuse for that.

      and finally, dont challeng my knowledge of the sport. i have tons of bpxing knowledge. the real problem here is that you dont realize that with time, bigger, stronger, faster abd better fighters rise, making the older fighters irrelavent. Pernel was great for his time. but that was long ago. and now, he cant compare with the athletic and talented fighters of today. Now for me to say he wasnt great would be ******. For mw to say he cant beat the one true great of today is reasonable, and true imo!

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      • #13
        That "bum" Diosbelys Hurtado beat the likes of Joel Casamayor in the amateurs and also twice knocked down a prime Kostya Tszyu in the first round of their fight.

        Sorry but it's tough not to question your knowledge of the sport with the kind of statements that you have been making.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Mr. Ryan View Post
          After his father saw him fight Reggie Sanders, he told his uncle to make sure he never again fought a southpaw. Corley had his own limitations, of course Mayweather was the better fighter but he was able to have success, especially with the right hook. Watch the Sanders fight, he gets hit with more right hooks than he should. Judah knocked Mayweather down with a right hook as well.

          Not scoring knockouts doesn't mean you're not an offensive threat; that's just statistics. Statistics can give you an idea of how what someone is potential but when you factor in that Whitaker didn't fight a knockout strategy, it explains his record.

          Spadafora and Malignaggi were boxers with no power and they weren't able to last on the world stage. You can't keep world class fighters off of you without some sort of punching power.

          A counter punch is an offensive move that comes about after a good defensive move creates an opening.
          floyd mayweather was caught off balance against judah, which would have happened if he fought a coventional fighter. being southpaw had nothing to do with it. Pernell whitaker, imo, wouldnt have been able to deal with mayweathers mixture of speed, power, accuracy, and skill, while breaking through his defense as well. since mayweather is a total package, he takes this fight. and you forgot to mention sharmba mitch, who is a southpaw that mayweather destroyed as well. another thing i wanted to mention is that pernell squared his sholders alot, which takes away from the southpaw advantage, and makes him easier to hit. and to answer your question, ive seen the oscar fight, which couldve went either way, but thats it. i cant find hq whitiker fights, therefore i dont watch them.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by a-raines21 View Post
            are you serious? you cant be.....

            first off, there is no way pernell is more accurate than floyd.

            2nd, floyd maywether got hit less, while expending less energy, which is much mor effective imo... pernell just looked good

            3rd, zab judah was a world class fighter with legit speed and power. and on top of that, he could floyd off balance. it happens. but that bum that pernell fought dropped him twice.... there is really no excuse for that.

            and finally, dont challeng my knowledge of the sport. i have tons of bpxing knowledge. the real problem here is that you dont realize that with time, bigger, stronger, faster abd better fighters rise, making the older fighters irrelavent. Pernel was great for his time. but that was long ago. and now, he cant compare with the athletic and talented fighters of today. Now for me to say he wasnt great would be ******. For mw to say he cant beat the one true great of today is reasonable, and true imo!
            wtf

            the 90s were a long time ago? this guy is gold, just gold

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            • #16
              Originally posted by a-raines21 View Post
              he may be hard to hit, but thats about it. he wasnt an offensive threat, and mayweather defense was just as good, if not better
              Do yourself a favour watch him in his prime.

              A few white washes where he dominated from bell to bell and looked absolutely flawless. He would not only beat Floyd he would win clearly!!

              Haugen
              J L Ramirez 2
              Brazier
              Cardona

              Watch these fights and when you have picked your jaw up off the floor. Come chat ****.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by a-raines21 View Post
                floyd mayweather was caught off balance against judah, which would have happened if he fought a coventional fighter. being southpaw had nothing to do with it. Pernell whitaker, imo, wouldnt have been able to deal with mayweathers mixture of speed, power, accuracy, and skill, while breaking through his defense as well. since mayweather is a total package, he takes this fight. and you forgot to mention sharmba mitch, who is a southpaw that mayweather destroyed as well. another thing i wanted to mention is that pernell squared his sholders alot, which takes away from the southpaw advantage, and makes him easier to hit. and to answer your question, ive seen the oscar fight, which couldve went either way, but thats it. i cant find hq whitiker fights, therefore i dont watch them.
                Basically you have seen two fights of Whitaker's when he was in his mid 30's.

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                • #18
                  Sorry but it's tough not to question your knowledge of the sport with the kind of statements that you have been making
                  I totally agree, it's even hard to debate with him due to his lack of knowlodge.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by TheManchine View Post
                    Basically you have seen two fights of Whitaker's when he was in his mid 30's.
                    I know

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by TheManchine View Post
                      That "bum" Diosbelys Hurtado beat the likes of Joel Casamayor in the amateurs and also twice knocked down a prime Kostya Tszyu in the first round of their fight.

                      Sorry but it's tough not to question your knowledge of the sport with the kind of statements that you have been making.
                      amatuers and pros are completely different. ive never recognized tzsyu as a really really p4p worthy fighter. 'Realize that the fighter that you all despise, zab judah, would have killed tszyu had he had an ounce of discipline. and on top of that, tszyu ko'd him in the 5th. so that kd doesnt mean ****.

                      all im saying is if you are num one p4p, then you have no business being floored twice by some up-and-comer, especially if he isnt a true superstar prospect. I cant really forgive that

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