What would FMJr. be proving seriously.

[trainhard_187]

Oscars biggets wins of his career wouldbve been aginst FMJ at 154 who MOVED up to fight Oscar....and aginst a 147 pound Pac who moved up..those would be Oscars TWO biggest wins because regardless of weight FMJ and Pac WERE the WORLD RECOGNIZED 2 P4P Number 1's.

This is what boxers do..they move up and challenge themselves.

Floyd, Oscar, Roy, Shane,Williams, Hatton they all do it.

If JMM and Pacman the number 1 and 2 want to move up and meet Floyd at 143 or 140....then so be it.

Those would be two fo Floyds biggest wins...beating Pac and JMM INSTANTLY make resume WORLDS BETTER.

They both dont even campaign at WW but at a catch weight of 145 or below yea, ill give it. But really as a Floyd fan would you rather see him beat a PW, SSM, or Cotto?

[Burner]

As a Floyd fan I want him to fight SSM, Cotto, PW, Clottey, and yes even Pacquiao.

Two or three of those fighters, but coming out of retirement just to fight Marquez and Pacquiao who both dont even pose at WW wouldnt be great to me.

Its like Tyson beating on smaller LHW or Cruiserweights to solidify his greatness.

Stop whining and crying if your a fan be happy the man is even lacing them up again..let him worry about his legacy...we just watch the fights....Floyd only cares about CASH...his legacy is sealed...hes one of the GREATEST lower weight fighters of all time...and a guy who went through 5 divions undefeated and was a champ in all 5.....and was lineal champion in 3 of them.

If your a Floyd fan like you claim then you realize hes been away for 19 months and is a fighter that relies on tiing...speed...reflexes..defense and accuracy thiongs that get rusty with inactivity...JMM is a tune up comeback fight.

[trainhard_187]

if this is true then hopkins should get no credit for beating tito and dlh.

Okay then answer this, IF Oscar beat Pacquiao that night then he gets bumped up the P4P list? Thats what im trying to clarify, how does a bigger guy get much credit for beating the guy that moved up to fight him.

I dont think Hopkins is riding high or considered a P4P fighter for beating Delahoya now is he?

[Boxking]

Yes it would

[trainhard_187]

Stop whining and crying if your a fan be happy the man is even lacing them up again..let him worry about his legacy...we just watch the fights....Floyd only cares about CASH...his legacy is sealed...hes one of the GREATEST lower weight fighters of all time...and a guy who went through 5 divions undefeated and was a champ in all 5.....and was lineal champion in 3 of them.

If your a Floyd fan like you claim then you realize hes been away for 19 months and is a fighter that relies on tiing...speed...reflexes..defense and accuracy thiongs that get rusty with inactivity...JMM is a tune up comeback fight.

Im a Floyd fan but him coming out of retirement to fight a Marquez (Pac i'll be ok with) doesnt really solidify his greatness IMO. Your a Floyd fan I can see, wouldnt you rather see him fight PW or SSM?

Im a Pac fan and I wouldnt mind seeing him fight SSM, FMJ, or Cotto to solidify his greatness, not saying he wins, but just the fact that he took BIGGER RISK?

[Burner]

They both dont even campaign at WW but at a catch weight of 145 or below yea, ill give it. But really as a Floyd fan would you rather see him beat a PW, SSM, or Cotto?

Sure but we as FANS need to be realistic about what fights can be made..

Williams

People come in here and make fun about Williams not being a draw and not having fans..then turn around and say Floyd should fight him....umm why>???...He doesnt draw remember....so Floyd will not fight him..hell I want to see the otheres WELTERS fight Paul...Cotto hasnt yet and SSM blatantly said he cant beat Paul.

Mosley

After SSM kod Vargas and Floyd beat Baldi this was the fight that mattered....Merchant asked SSM numerous time why wont you fight Floyd?..SSM said he neede a vacation...he said he had a toothache and he said he needed to see a dentist......interstingly enough that following friday on Friday Night Fights he said hed fight Margarito in a heartbeat...Wait did I miss something...Shane is also 37 and past it...and the second Floyd is announced the winner EVERYONE will say well if shane was prime he would win or they will say that shane being old is the only reason Floyd won.

Cotto

Believe it or not this fight was offere to Cotto and ASrum at 140 pounds...THEY DECLINED.

Floyd went on ESPN and said hed love to fight Cotto......but that he wont work with Arum.....because hes a snake....further proof of that is evient when Arum says that Pac will get a 60-40 split to fight Floyd...ridicouous...he knows Floyd wont sign and will price Manny out.

[Bushbaby]

if this is true then hopkins should get no credit for beating tito and dlh.

This response is just to the Hopkins part,being this is for Floyd fans I respect that!Trinidad and DLH,were solid wins but those are just a tiny part of the B-Hop legacy and in fairness to B-hop,he was the major underdog against Trinidad,Pavlik,Tarver,there is so much B-Hop has done!!!

[trainhard_187]

Sure but we as FANS need to be realistic about what fights can be made..

Williams

People come in here and make fun about Williams not being a draw and not having fans..then turn around and say Floyd should fight him....umm why>???...He doesnt draw remember....so Floyd will not fight him..hell I want to see the otheres WELTERS fight Paul...Cotto hasnt yet and SSM blatantly said he cant beat Paul.

Mosley

After SSM kod Vargas and Floyd beat Baldi this was the fight that mattered....Merchant asked SSM numerous time why wont you fight Floyd?..SSM said he neede a vacation...he said he had a toothache and he said he needed to see a dentist......interstingly enough that following friday on Friday Night Fights he said hed fight Margarito in a heartbeat...Wait did I miss something...Shane is also 37 and past it...and the second Floyd is announced the winner EVERYONE will say well if shane was prime he would win or they will say that shane being old is the only reason Floyd won.

Cotto

Believe it or not this fight was offere to Cotto and ASrum at 140 pounds...THEY DECLINED.

Floyd went on ESPN and said hed love to fight Cotto......but that he wont work with Arum.....because hes a snake....further proof of that is evient when Arum says that Pac will get a 60-40 split to fight Floyd...ridicouous...he knows Floyd wont sign and will price Manny out.

I would like to see him fight Williams but right now in FMJ career that fight would not generate huge interest PPV wise and this stage in FMJ career thats what he's all about.

Now if your statments about Cotto and SSM are true then I rest my case, those fights wont happen cause Cotto and SSM dont want them. But if either one wants a piece of Floyd now, I think Floyd should take it rather then coming back for Marquez.

[Burner]

Im a Floyd fan but him coming out of retirement to fight a Marquez (Pac i'll be ok with) doesnt really solidify his greatness IMO. Your a Floyd fan I can see, wouldnt you rather see him fight PW or SSM?

Im a Pac fan and I wouldnt mind seeing him fight SSM, FMJ, or Cotto to solidify his greatness, not saying he wins, but just the fact that he took BIGGER RISK?

Floyd didnt take a risk fighting Oscar at 154???

He didnt take a rick facing Corralles.

He didnt take a risk moving up to a new weight class and fighting the best fighter there in the divison with new tune up TWICE...AGINST CASTILLO.

He didnt take a risk fighting Hernandez at 21 years of age.

He didnt take a risk fighting Hatton....a fight MOST thought Floyd would lose.

He didnt take a risk Fighting Baldi when Baldi weighed 160 plus and Floyd was 148.

He didint take a rsk fighting MOST of his career and fights with BROKEN hands.

He didnt take a risk not having a trainer in his corner in the biggets fight of his career for the WBC Championship.




Manny and Floyd were 16 years old.......they both fought at 106 pounds.

[Burner]

I would like to see him fight Williams but right now in FMJ career that fight would not generate huge interest PPV wise and this stage in FMJ career thats what he's all about.

Now if your statments about Cotto and SSM are true then I rest my case, those fights wont happen cause Cotto and SSM dont want them. But if either one wants a piece of Floyd now, I think Floyd should take it rather then coming back for Marquez.

Shane doesnt want it.....shane only wants the payday and Floyd aint buying it.

I think Cotto wants to fight Floyd...its Arum whos messing things up....hes even trying to PUT cOTTO VS. pAC TO GET ALL THE MONEY FOR TOP RANK.

aRUM IS FOUL.

The second Cotto fires him...Cotto vs. Mayweather wil happen ASAP.