Khan beat Ortiz as an AM

[Chew BackAtacha]

huh? even if its amateur, it's still a boxing competition


khan beats victor ortiz, believe it


victor ortiz is a great fighter but he cant deal with speedy/high wrok rate fighters

ortiz sparred manny as well for the david diaz fight, ortiz got owned

mayweather got beat by augie sanchez in the olympic trials, who prince naz knocked out

[Benny Leonard]

ortiz got KTFO with head gear on, what do you think is going to happen without?

how old was he?

Tua got knocked out as well.


Not everybody at 18 or even 20 like Tyson can take a heavy shot. Some people take longer to mature. Which is also why they shouldn't rush certain fighters.

However;
Is this the reason he doesn't open up and break down fighters....instead fighting carefully....we'll see

[Ryn0]

huh? even if its amateur, it's still a boxing competition


khan beats victor ortiz, believe it


victor ortiz is a great fighter but he cant deal with speedy/high wrok rate fighters

ortiz sparred manny as well for the david diaz fight, ortiz got owned

Ortiz would brutalize Khan.

[rj_ct]

mayweather had more than 1 defeat in the ams. i think they're officially saying his record was like 89-8 or something, which is an incredible amateur record.

amateur boxing is very different from pro boxing. khan vs. ortiz would be a good fight.

[Benny Leonard]

mayweather had more than 1 defeat in the ams. i think they're officially saying his record was like 89-8 or something, which is an incredible amateur record.

amateur boxing is very different from pro boxing. khan vs. ortiz would be a good fight.

Yup. Not like when Sugar Ray Robinson was fighting in the amateurs and it was basically a few round Pro fight.

What was Robinson's record again

[nujabes77]

how old was he?

Tua got knocked out as well.


Not everybody at 18 or even 20 like Tyson can take a heavy shot. Some people take longer to mature. Which is also why they shouldn't rush certain fighters.

However;
Is this the reason he doesn't open up and break down fighters....instead fighting carefully....we'll see

talk about double standards... you make it sound like khan stagnated in the skill department while ortiz got better

you do know that manny owned ortiz in sparring for his fight againts diaz, video was on youtube, that wasn't that long ago. reason beaing is manny's speed and crazy workrate

khan has mad speed and workrate, ortiz can't deal with this. tr to search for pac/khan spar and pac/ortiz spar, you're going to see the difference. khan was getting beat up but still remained competative

[Benny Leonard]

talk about double standards... you make it sound like khan stagnated in the skill department while ortiz got better

you do know that manny owned ortiz in sparring for his fight againts diaz, video was on youtube, that wasn't that long ago. reason beaing is manny's speed and crazy workrate

khan has mad speed and workrate, ortiz can't deal with this. tr to search for pac/khan spar and pac/ortiz spar, you're going to see the difference. khan was getting beat up but still remained competative

You do know that Bowe was being owned by Holyfield as well in sparring...or so I hear.

I do agree that for Ortiz to be successful, he is going to have to step it up. His current trainer doesn't seem to push him in that direction so he may need a change to someone more offensive minded.



Sparring is still not a "fight" for money and legacy and it can make the difference.

Sparring can be telling of where a fighers is at though............but we'll see.

I'll do a search...youtube? Google?

Khan was still KTFO because of a power shot. Ortiz has that same ability. Both still can grow as fighters.

If you put the smaller gloves on him and have no head-gear: he still has a chance to hurt Pac as well. Anybody more powerful that Pac has faced than Ortiz?


Where was Pac at Ortiz's age; at his best?


SEND ME THE SOURCE/LINK OF THE SPARRING.

I haven't found anything yet. Easier if you find it.

[xcaret]

pacquiao did not do amateur boxing, his ko's are from when he was very young and inexperience

ortiz is 22 ***in dumb ass... the khan-ortiz fight was when they were both 16. you talk as if you know everythign about ortiz, stay the *** out of a non-pinoy thread cause all you dumb ass pinoys do is embarrass yourselfs

[Cutthroat]

ortiz is 22 ***in dumb ass... the khan-ortiz fight was when they were both 16. you talk as if you know everythign about ortiz, stay the *** out of a non-pinoy thread cause all you dumb ass pinoys do is embarrass yourselfs

Someone once brought up that Ortiz also had no named trainers (He was poor as ****) while Khan was having everything given to him including excellent trainers.

Anyways Taylor beat Pavlik in the amateurs, in the pro's Pavlik is now 2-0 against Taylor. I got Ortiz by KO if he ever fights Khan.

[kadafee]

Let me make something clear, first Khan did not KO/TKO Ortiz

second in amateur boxing do you know what a ko/tko is?

when a fighter takes a huge shot the ref gives him a standing 8 count or sometimes even stops it to insure the safety of the combatants.