Originally posted by Horus
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what is floyd mayweather's natural weight?
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Originally posted by Spray_resistant View PostSadly....we call them typical.
guys like hop and floyd are the exception not the rule.
it's not just in boxing either.
kickboxing , judo , wrestling , jiu-jitsu......any competition where there is a weight limit cutting weight is NORMAL.
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Let's put it this way- 87% of PBF career was under 147
- 79% of PBF was fought below 140
And if anybody knows me they know that I want same day weigh ins...
so we can get middleweights and supermiddleweights out of the welterweight division...
like it was in the 80's.
i have written over at least 100 post about this one topic alone
Originally posted by Horus View PostI say Floyd is not a true welterweight COMPARED to the rest of the fighters in the welterweight division.
The reason that weight classes exist at all is to ensure a fair fight. Fair and safe competition begins with the requirement that the two men facing each other are the same size in terms of weight.
At Welterweight Floyd fights at a Physical Disadvantage every fight, because he is coming in at the welterweight limit and other fighters are coming in as Middleweights...!
I am pretty sure if Floyd wanted to fight middleweights, he would rather fight for a middleweight title rather than a welterweight title.
At Welterweight.
Floyd is suppose to be fighting 147 pound fighters not 165 pounds Fighters posing as 147 pound fighters....
But People say all he has to fight a real WW and nobody else..!!!
Like Floyd comes in at 160 like every other fighter does at Welterweight.
FLOYD IS NOT A NATURAL WELTERWEIGHT COMPARED TO OTHER WELTERWEIGHTS.
If you are truly interested in Welterweights (147 pounders) fighting welterweights...then you should be disgusted at the fact that all the supposedly Welterweights in the WW division all fight around 160 when the fight starts. when the limit they should be at is 147.
When people say Floyd needs to beat a real WW and stop fighting on smaller guys?
They say that like Floyd 1st or 2nd division was WW and he has been fighting Small guys his whole Career....
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The WW Division
Cotto's: 2nd Division
Margarito's: 2nd Division
Shane Mosley: 3rd Division
Andre Berto: 2nd Division (1st:160)
Joshua Clottey:1st Division
Kermit Cintron: 1st Division
Paul Williams:2nd Division (1st:160)
CarlosQuintana:1st Division
Floyd Mayweather 4th Division
If you say Mayweather has grown into the Welther weight division even though that is his 4th Division
PLease Answer this Direct Question:
1.If Mayweather Has grown into a Natural WW, What Have the Other Fighters who have been in the WW division Grown into if that is their 1st or 2nd Division..?
or do you think that Mayweather is the only fighter who Grows in the Division?
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...ne#post5117184
Here is the Logic:
Boxers have 17 weight classes to fit into. They should be compelled to fight within the one that most nearly reflects their actual trim and fit weight.
The primary objective of having 17 weight classes in this sport should be to determine the best fighters within specific intervals of weight. Not to pick on Margarito, but if he weighs a trim and fit 165 lbs. on fight night, then how on Earth can we call him the 147 lb. champion with a straight face?
Why have so many weight classes if the boxers being weighed are going to make a mockery of the system?
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A lot of the points would have merit if there were same day weigh in's but there isn't so a welter weighing 160 on fight night if he weighs 147 at the weigh in he's a ww.
You can't decide to enforce a rule that doesn't exist when you want to.
That's the one thing I don't like about people saying so and so weighed x.
You guys act like it's against the rules. It's not.
If it was, your points are fine, but don't make a rule up when it's convenient for you.
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Originally posted by jreckoning View PostA lot of the points would have merit if there were same day weigh in's but there isn't so a welter weighing 160 on fight night if he weighs 147 at the weigh in he's a ww.
You can't decide to enforce a rule that doesn't exist when you want to.
That's the one thing I don't like about people saying so and so weighed x.
You guys act like it's against the rules. It's not.
If it was, your points are fine, but don't make a rule up when it's convenient for you.
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Originally posted by Horus View PostLet's put it this way- 87% of PBF career was under 147
- 79% of PBF was fought below 140
And if anybody knows me they know that I want same day weigh ins...
so we can get middleweights and supermiddleweights out of the welterweight division...
like it was in the 80's.
i have written over at least 100 post about this one topic alone
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5 times in 55 fights.
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Originally posted by jreckoning View PostA lot of the points would have merit if there were same day weigh in's but there isn't so a welter weighing 160 on fight night if he weighs 147 at the weigh in he's a ww.
You can't decide to enforce a rule that doesn't exist when you want to.
That's the one thing I don't like about people saying so and so weighed x.
You guys act like it's against the rules. It's not.
If it was, your points are fine, but don't make a rule up when it's convenient for you.
if fighters think guys are too big for him at a certain division then he shouldn't be fighting in that division.
if cotto , shane , marg is too big for floyd that's fine. go back down to 140.
147 is too big for jmm. this fight shouldn't be made.
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What's up with these statistics showing the percentage of time at each weight? Is Roy Jones a natural 160lber? Is Oscar De La Hoya a natural feather? They spent most of their fights in the lower weights, no?
But like all fighters who move up they also settle into a higher weight. And spend time there. Jones did it at 175. Oscar at 147. Mosley at 147. And so on. Floyd looked to be doing the same at welter before he retired. What does "natural" weight mean? Floyd's body as it stands can't make 135. And if he did squeeze down that low it would be very unnatural.
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