If JMM was a natural WW would Floyd have taken this fight?

[ACHlLLES]

probably not, he hasn't fought a true WW yet.

[PoetryInMotion]

what are you talkin about? Those guys werent around when Floyd was there. He's been at WW for a while now. Are you late? The only reason why Im saying this is because this is a couldve wouldve thread or do you guys not knwo this. If you think that JMM is really better then Floyd at any weight then youre smoking.

Yeah but if that was his natural weight then he could have moved down to fight those guys right? If you think Floyd isn't taking this fight because he thinks it's a safe fight then your smoking.

[a-raines21]

floyd is a welterweight otherwise he'd make the fight at 140.

mayweather cant make the weight comfortably = hes a welterweight.

wow.....just wow.... if thats the case, shane should fight at middleweight. floyd is the only legit ww there is, seein ass everybody else comes into the ring at 154-160

[PoetryInMotion]

Well the verdict is in. Im out.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

wow.....just wow.... if thats the case, shane should fight at middleweight. floyd is the only legit ww there is, seein ass everybody else comes into the ring at 154-160

They Weight 147 on the weight in, thas what matters,, end of.

By that ****** standar of yours, kirkand is a LHW then!!!!!!!!1

[DLT]

So now, he wants Mosley, its just that he wants JMM and Pacquiao first? jajajajajajajaa

I really do beleive that he's always wanted Mosley. Im not saying that Floyd will fight a ton of WW's but I beleive that he has always wanted Mosley. I also beleive that he wouldve fought Cotto at 140 but at WW I think they are scared that they may lose just because someone is flat out bigger then them and they dont want to lose that way. Its like Margarito. Alot of people felt that Margarito could beat Floyd but why? P4P everyone in there right mind knows that there not even in the same class but they felt like Margarito could win because he may just be too big for Floyd as he would have 15 pounds on him in the ring and him being a natural WW in his 1st division while Floyd is unatural and in his 4th.

Again, Ive always said that there are only 2 ways to beat him. 1 is youre going to have to be much bigger & stronger to the point where all Floyd can do is pot shot or you have to be a Southpaw and just catch him with some shots because I honestly beleive that in his "prime" a righty cant hit him clean. I dont beleive its possible for a righty right now to hit him with clean shots so how can you beat him? The only guys that can beat him is just because there too big. Ive always said that everyone knows that Karmazin is not nearly on Floyd's level but it honeslty wouldnt have shocked me if Floyd moved up and lost to him just because he was too big. Then if Floyd does manage to win, everyone will say he's a scrub because he ran, pot shot, and the fight was boring. Well if you let him fight guys his own size then he will dominate those guys. His O is so underrated on these boards. I beleive he feels that Mosley is a big strong WW but he still came from LW and his style is such that he cant bully Floyd like a Margarito or Cotto. Thats why I think he would be willing to fight Shane. I feel the same way about him fighting Clottey but Clottey probably doesnt bring enough money to the table. I feel the same way about Berto but his name might not be big enough

[ACHlLLES]

They Weight 147 on the weight in, thas what matters,, end of.

By that ****** standar of yours, kirkand is a LHW then!!!!!!!!1

Kirkland can enjoy boxing behind a jail cell, while watching boxing on their cheap jail tvs.

[DLT]

Yeah but if that was his natural weight then he could have moved down to fight those guys right? If you think Floyd isn't taking this fight because he thinks it's a safe fight then your smoking.

I just told you the difference. He can move down and fight them if it was just about those fights and then he's done but its not. He's going to fight at WW again and he's not big enough to be coming down and then going back up. He comes in at 148. He'll never ever be a real WW but right now he's probably as big as he's going to be and if he comes back down and then goes back up then I think he's fearing that he may have to start from ground zero again and those guys may be a shock to his system. I even say myself as a Floyd fan that if he came straight back and fought a guy like Berto 1st then I would pick him to beat Mosley and maybe Cotto after that but if he went down to 140 and then came back to fight Mosley & Cotto then I think his chances of beating them go way down because he's just not big enough at that weight to be starting all over again. I think if Ortiz was already a big money beast, if Valreo was at 140 knocking guys out, and if Khan was another Hatton then Floyd may come down to fight JMM because there are so many other guys there to have big fights with but its not enough right now.

Last thing. I keep telling everyone this. JMM was going to 140 anyways. Stop acting like Floyd called him out, is a 160 pound WW, and JMM is a LW who was going to stay there forever. Its not the case. Floyd comes in at 148 and JMM is going to 140 now anyways and he called out Floyd. This fight would probably look different if JMM had already fought someone like Campbell at 140. Then how far apart would it seem?

[Xplosivo]

better question would pacquiao fight JMM if he was a natural welterweight? since pac got his ass whooped twice in the lower weights by him.

[2501]

history shows...................no.