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  • Benny Leonard
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    #11
    I've discussed this before and have come to the conclusion few care so I don't see any problem with it; we get fights like this






    And if Clottey can rehydrate from 147 to 170, who cares, right?
    Last edited by Benny Leonard; 04-23-2009, 08:17 PM.

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    • Bhopreign
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      #12
      Boxing is highly distorted because of day after weigh ins. Day after weigh in puts fighters in the Hall of Fame who otherwise wouldnt be there and would probably have to find another line of work.

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      • javelin_fangs
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        #13
        I think it's ****** for us to support a system where we have 17 different weight classes yet some guys are able to make a mockery of it by weighing in at a certain weight but then come in 15-20 lbs heavier when they're actually fighting. Why do we have 17 weight classes if we don't care how much people actually weigh when they fight?

        I also think the "everyone plays by the same rules" line is lame. Do you think that everyone is really willing to do those things to their body? The long term health effects that someone like Manny Pacquiao or Celestino Caballero, who routinely dehydrate themselves and then fight 15+ lbs above the weight they weighed in at, will have to deal with are not pretty. Why do we support this system we're asking fighters to either go through that later in life or be at a disadvantage in the ring?

        It's a ****** thing to force fighters to choose between because the purpose of the weigh in is to make for as even a playing field as possible. The weigh in system as it is now does not do that. It's a joke. Nobody respects it. It should be changed.

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        • Spray_resistant
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          #14
          Originally posted by Benny Leonard
          I've discussed this before and have come to the conclusion few care so I don't see any problem with it; we get fights like this






          And if Clottey can rehydrate from 147 to 170, who cares, right?
          That **** is terrible, but yeah people are just so apathetic about fair competition.....I think these catch weights will become more prevalent in the future.

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          • Bhopreign
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            #15
            Its simple, fighters want advantages and fighting someone the same size as you doesnt give you an advantage unless youre naturally stronger or faster otherwise skill has to come into play which it should always.

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            • javelin_fangs
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              #16
              Originally posted by Benny Leonard
              I've discussed this before and have come to the conclusion few care so I don't see any problem with it; we get fights like this






              And if Clottey can rehydrate from 147 to 170, who cares, right?
              YES, EXACTLY.

              Everyone on this board likes to talk about fights that "disgrace" boxing. The Gatti-Gamache fight was a DISGRACE to boxing. That is the best piece of evidence that anyone could have about what is wrong with boxing, especially with regard to the weigh in system.

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              • Horus
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                #17
                The reason that weight classes exist at all is to ensure a fair fight. Fair and safe competition begins with the requirement that the two men facing each other are the same size in terms of weight.

                Here is the Point:

                Boxers have 17 weight classes to fit into. They should be compelled to fight within the one that most nearly reflects their actual trim and fit weight.

                The primary objective of having 17 weight classes in this sport should be to determine the best fighters within specific intervals of weight. Not to pick on Margarito, but if he weighs a trim and fit 165 lbs. on fight night, then how on Earth can we call him the 147 lb. champion with a straight face?
                Why have so many weight classes if the boxers being weighed are going to make a mockery of the system?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Horus
                  The reason that weight classes exist at all is to ensure a fair fight. Fair and safe competition begins with the requirement that the two men facing each other are the same size in terms of weight.

                  Here is the Point:

                  Boxers have 17 weight classes to fit into. They should be compelled to fight within the one that most nearly reflects their actual trim and fit weight.

                  The primary objective of having 17 weight classes in this sport should be to determine the best fighters within specific intervals of weight. Not to pick on Margarito, but if he weighs a trim and fit 165 lbs. on fight night, then how on Earth can we call him the 147 lb. champion with a straight face?
                  Why have so many weight classes if the boxers being weighed are going to make a mockery of the system?
                  Yes exactly, the Margarito/Williams fight was a MW vs a SMW for a WW trinket.

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                  • bbos
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                    #19
                    same day weigh in are too dangerous because fighters lack the hydration to protect their bodies, namely the brain.

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                    • bbos
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                      I've discussed this before and have come to the conclusion few care so I don't see any problem with it; we get fights like this






                      And if Clottey can rehydrate from 147 to 170, who cares, right?
                      wow he got KTFO, thats permanent brain damage right there, plus i think his jaw is broken too.

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