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  • Spray_resistant
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    Official weight vs Unofficial Weight

    It is interesting how commentators during fights refer to the weights that fighters are scaled in at moments before the fight an "unofficial" weight. The official weight the day before is to me at least just a puppet show for cameras and newspapers. The weight that fighters actually weigh in at when they are in the ring is what they actually weigh during the process of the fight, thus making it the only measurement of weight which is of any importance or consequence. Just because two fights can meet each other on the scale at the same time and condition themselves in different ways to make the scale read the same measurement briefly does not mean said fighters are the same size and should be fighting each other. If in the ring one fighter is 10-15lbs heavier than the other, and it's not a HW fight, this is not a legitimate fight. Does anyone see things my way and take more consideration into "unofficial" weights which represent the realistic sizes of fighters? or is an official weigh in all that matters to you, even if it sometimes produces unfair competition?
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    Nop

    everybody, is fighting under the same rules, and have the same advanteges/disadvantages,.

    The weight in boxing is OK, the problem we hace is some many damn belts!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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      Nah, I don't.

      If we had same day weigh in's, maybe I would care but if they can make the weight ok, I don't care what they balloon up to.

      Perhaps the could have max limits- but they usually don't

      According to the rules, what they weigh unofficially is meaningless.


      If it meant something, it would be different for me, but there's always guys going to balloon up if they think it helps them win.

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        Which goes back to the idea of same day weigh in. Fighters found the loophole in fighting the day after weigh in and have taking full advantage of it. Same day weigh in gives you who the real champs should be, being able to put on 20 pounds after a weigh in distorts who the real champions are.

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          Originally posted by Bhopreign
          Which goes back to the idea of same day weigh in. Fighters found the loophole in fighting the day after weigh in and have taking full advantage of it. Same day weigh in gives you who the real champs should be, being able to put on 20 pounds after a weigh in distorts who the real champions are.

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          Cliff Rold seems to think the incentive was money for the rule change rather than health reasons although Kim-Mancini couldn't have helped.

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            There is a system in place,it's the day before so the fighters have a chance to hydrate!!For example,Oscar was about 145 a month before weight in and look what happened to him!!This seems like an excuse for a certain fighter!!Rules are in place to safe guard fighters health!!If a fighter feels he is at a disadvantage,fight lower!!

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              If they did get rid of same day weigh ins for health reasons fine, but can we acknowledge that it created another problem? Fighters cutting weight are somewhat safer, but it shouldn't like; ehhh it's not a perfect system but close enough.

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                Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                If they did get rid of same day weigh ins for health reasons fine, but can we acknowledge that it created another problem? Fighters cutting weight are somewhat safer, but it shouldn't like; ehhh it's not a perfect system but close enough.

                Seems to me, whatever they do their should be some medical monitoring and battery of tests on guys but that costs money, so people aren't interested.

                There has been a trend toward more 30 day in advance weight limits, etc.

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                  Originally posted by jreckoning
                  Seems to me, whatever they do their should be some medical monitoring and battery of tests on guys but that costs money, so people aren't interested.

                  There has been a trend toward more 30 day in advance weight limits, etc.
                  Or a limit of how much can be put on within a certain amount of hours before a fight....I mean did you see Clottey/Judah?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by jreckoning
                    http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=18413


                    Cliff Rold seems to think the incentive was money for the rule change rather than health reasons although Kim-Mancini couldn't have helped.
                    Yes I said the other day its because of money, to showcase the fighters but someone kept disagreeing with me. People thinking its for health reasons are not thinking past the obvious. The people who make money off of boxers are only concerned about how much money they make, this is the only sport that doesnt have a pension system, they dont care about the fighters, its about how much money they can make off of the fighters.
                    Last edited by Bhopreign; 04-23-2009, 08:16 PM.

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