Does any one remember how it was like when Zahir Raheem beat Erik Morales?

[IMDAZED]

What?
Raheem is LW.
Pac was FW and his first fight at SFW he lost to Morales.
The he wins again to Velasquez then you mean he would go to LW against Raheem cu'z Raheem beated Morales?

Raheem is not spectacular fighter as too many here say so.
Morales just couldn't beat any lightweight.
Raheem has his chance for the title after he beat Morales,
Then he got embarrass by Freitas.

Embarrassed? I take it you didn't see the fight. Most people thought Raheem won. Hell, even most of the Brazilians ringside didn't feel too good about that decision.

[Benny Leonard]

What?
Raheem is LW.
Pac was FW and his first fight at SFW he lost to Morales.
The he wins again to Velasquez then you mean he would go to LW against Raheem cu'z Raheem beated Morales?

Raheem is not spectacular fighter as too many here say so.
Morales just couldn't beat any lightweight.
Raheem has his chance for the title after he beat Morales,
Then he got embarrass by Freitas.

It's how he looked against Raheem which was telling. It's not like Morales went on to have a great career afterwards.

And when you bring up that Raheem wasn't a "spectacular" fighter, then that would serve even more notice of where Morales was at in his career.

It always reminds me of that quote (I think by Cus and said many times by Merchant) about how a past prime/old fighter can basically draw up from the past and give one more last great performance....
Beating Pac the way he did may have been that performance.

I know for at least the third fight, the weight issue was a big deal and Morales was a corpse. Second fight, not so sure; foggy memory on that one.


What was the reason he moved up in the first place?

[DLT]

See I remember Raheem winning pretty clearly, but I don't remember him doing massive amounts of damage, which is strange, because all of a sudden after this fight, people were saying Morales was shot to hell.

They said he was shot because he didnt win a single round. He got shut out against a pretty average guy. Thats why I say that the media is biased against Hispanics. After that Pac kills him twice and they act like Pac is the best thing since slice bread, like the Raheem fight never happened. He was done

[Bhopreign]

What?
Raheem is LW.
Pac was FW and his first fight at SFW he lost to Morales.
The he wins again to Velasquez then you mean he would go to LW against Raheem cu'z Raheem beated Morales?

Raheem is not spectacular fighter as too many here say so.
Morales just couldn't beat any lightweight.
Raheem has his chance for the title after he beat Morales,
Then he got embarrass by Freitas.

Im telling you what I read he said, he said after beating Morales he didnt see how Morales was still fighting Pacquaio and he should have been the guy to fight Pacquiao.

[Benny Leonard]

They said he was shot because he didnt win a single round. He got shut out against a pretty average guy. Thats why I say that the media is biased against Hispanics. After that Pac kills him twice and they act like Pac is the best thing since slice bread, like the Raheem fight never happened. He was done

BOB ARUM

[FasTHarD]

It's how he looked against Raheem which was telling. It's not like Morales went on to have a great career afterwards.

And when you bring up that Raheem wasn't a "spectacular" fighter, then that would serve even more notice of where Morales was at in his career.

It always reminds me of that quote (I think by Cus and said many times by Merchant) about how a past prime/old fighter can basically draw up from the past and give one more last great performance....
Beating Pac the way he did may have been that performance.

I know for at least the third fight, the weight issue was a big deal and Morales was a corpse. Second fight, not so sure; foggy memory on that one.


What was the reason he moved up in the first place?

Morales/Raheem is just a tune-up fight. He really try how good he still at LW.
Morales wants to try the first man in Mexico to became 4 division champ.
Morales is still look good at Pac/Morales II.
Morales just couldn't beat a LW.

[FasTHarD]

Im telling you what I read he said, he said after beating Morales he didnt see how Morales was still fighting Pacquaio and he should have been the guy to fight Pacquiao.

Where did you read that ****? Link.

[Benny Leonard]

Morales/Raheem is just a tune-up fight. He really try how good he still at LW.Morales wants to try the first man in Mexico to became 4 division champ.
Morales is still look good at Pac/Morales II.
Morales just couldn't beat a LW.

???


Look at the way he fought. Look at his balance and everything that came with it. Then compare him to his prime days. He just seemed confused, off balance...not there.

Unless, Morales just couldn't deal with a slick boxer and was made to look like crap.

[FasTHarD]

Embarrassed? I take it you didn't see the fight. Most people thought Raheem won. Hell, even most of the Brazilians ringside didn't feel too good about that decision.

Raheem won that fight?
Brazilian looks not good after Freitas schooled Raheem?
No way in hell.
I think you never saw that fight.

[FasTHarD]

???


Look at the way he fought. Look at his balance and everything that came with it. Then compare him to his prime days. He just seemed confused, off balance...not there.

Unless, Morales just couldn't deal with a slick boxer and was made to look like crap.

Maybe but he just couldn't beat any LW.
I like Morales but the sad thing is he didn't look like the Morales i know if he fights at LW.