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  • #31
    Originally posted by boxaholic View Post
    For a person I normally agree with on this boxum forum I can't believe you feel this way. Being 21 and young and easily swayed by watching a BS documentary and believing it..... is the only excuse you have. The worse thread you have ever. The is by far the worst post you have ever made.
    I've read up on Ali and I've had this view of him before this documentary.
    In my eyes there should be no sympathy for someone who behaved as such and did someone great wrong just because they get older and start to regret.
    what is done is done and will never be changed so why should you?
    You don't see prisoners getting let out of jail simply because they aplogized for what they did do you? He did something wrong and now he has to suffer the consequences.
    That's how I view it and if you disagree with it fine but you cant say theere isn't truth to that.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Chew BackAtacha View Post
      I need to see this documentary...up it for me, an ill up the tyson film, promise
      I already put the Tyson documentary up. Sorry.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Sin City View Post
        I've read up on Ali and I've had this view of him before this documentary.
        In my eyes there should be no sympathy for someone who behaved as such and did someone great wrong just because they get older and start to regret.
        what is done is done and will never be changed so why should you?
        You don't see prisoners getting let out of jail simply because they aplogized for what they did do you? He did something wrong and now he has to suffer the consequences.
        That's how I view it and if you disagree with it fine but you cant say theere isn't truth to that.
        Honestly kid, your 21 and young and nieve. Life doesn't work that way. I don't care who you are, when you get older you will have regrets, we all do. A real man forgives and forgets, bottom line. People make mistakes and to hold grudges or wish injury or sickness on someone because of it, says a lot about that persons lack of character.

        In time you will understand this....

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        • #34
          Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496 View Post
          So people can't make mistakes and be forgiven for them? Ali has since them separated himself from the extremist rhetoric that the Nation of Islam stands for.

          It was a long time ago man, get over it. I mean, I don't know where you come from but where I come from if a man swallows his pride and admits he was wrong and extends his hand in an apology, you take it. That's what being a man is. Frazier is more upset with the way history has remembered him than what Ali did in those weeks leading up to the fight.
          the way I have always viewed it was this way: one honest and simple mistake is forgivable.. years and years of them are not.

          I would never expect a woman to forgive me if I cheated on her.

          I would never expect a friend to forgive me if they helped them out and then I stabbed them in the back.

          If they said something in the heat of the moment, I would forgive them.. however, if they spent years and years talking **** about me and rediculing me I would not for it's no longer (in the heat of the moment)
          Last edited by Sin City; 04-23-2009, 11:24 AM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Boxing Fiend View Post
            I already put the Tyson documentary up. Sorry.
            cool

            ill continue looking...

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            • #36
              Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496 View Post
              Honestly kid, your 21 and young and nieve. Life doesn't work that way. I don't care who you are, when you get older you will have regrets, we all do. A real man forgives and forgets, bottom line. People make mistakes and to hold grudges or wish injury or sickness on someone because of it, says a lot about that persons lack of character.

              In time you will understand this....
              where I came from the land lord didn't forgive an forget if the rent was late.
              as well as other things..
              I don't think it's a lack of character.. you don't know me or the generous things I do.
              it doesn't mean I don't do them because I don't talk about them here on the forum.
              you don't know me as a person to say I lack character, my life isn't out there
              like Ali's or Fraziers for you to be able to say that.
              I really have a dislike for *******s though.
              It's no coensidence that Mayweather and Bernard Hopkins aren't my favoritest of people.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Sin City View Post
                I've read up on Ali and I've had this view of him before this documentary.
                In my eyes there should be no sympathy for someone who behaved as such and did someone great wrong just because they get older and start to regret.
                what is done is done and will never be changed so why should you?
                You don't see prisoners getting let out of jail simply because they aplogized for what they did do you? He did something wrong and now he has to suffer the consequences.
                That's how I view it and if you disagree with it fine but you cant say theere isn't truth to that.
                Here's truth - the issue is between those 2 men, and any karma that was to be dealt has already been handed out and doesn't need you to validate or emphasize it by standing by and pointing and judging like you're a paragon of virtue yourself. Ali has accepted his 'punishment' with stoicism and dignity, so where's yours? Not having sympathy doesn't mean you can't keep some dignity for yourself. You're just a randomer who posts about fighters being "bitches" on a messageboard in between making pervy remarks about other fighters' pre-teen daughters and talking how other fighters deserve to have Parkinson's. Aren't you the same guy who claims that fighters should be judged on what they do, the character they show, between the ropes? Isn't that what you put such an emphasis on and claim to be here to talk about? You can't fault Ali on that.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Man In Black
                  Here's truth - the issue is between those 2 men, and any karma that was to be dealt has already been handed out and doesn't need you to validate or emphasize it by standing by and pointing and judging like you're a paragon of virtue yourself. Ali has accepted his 'punishment' with stoicism and dignity, so where's yours? Not having sympathy doesn't mean you can't keep some dignity for yourself. You're just a randomer who posts about fighters being "bitches" on a messageboard in between making pervy remarks about other fighters' pre-teen daughters and talking how other fighters deserve to have Parkinson's. Aren't you the same guy who claims that fighters should be judged on what they do, the character they show, between the ropes? Isn't that what you put such an emphasis on and claim to be here to talk about? You can't fault Ali on that.
                  you must have me confused with someone else.. when did I say anything about someone's pre-teen daughter? I don't remember anything of such.. and I already gave Ali his due in one of the posts above, I said he was a great fighter with extraordinary skills, you must have missed that.. we aren't talking about Ali the fighter though, we are talking about Ali the person.

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                  • #39
                    That documentary is TOTALLY onsided. And the fact that the Joe Frazier himself is "starring" in the documentary does not help much. Bob Arum is not the only one to blast that "Biased" documentary.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by steptwome View Post
                      That documentary is TOTALLY onsided. And the fact that the Joe Frazier himself is "starring" in the documentary does not help much. Bob Arum is not the only one to blast that "Biased" documentary.
                      It was meant to tell Fraziers side of the story, a story that isn't often heard, so of course it is biase. It is showing everything through Frazier's point of view.

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