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  • talip bin osman
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    #21
    Originally posted by blackirish137
    Not underrated, the ones that never get mentioned at all.

    Carlos Ortiz-One of the greatest lightweights of all time, and arguably the best Puerto Rican fighter of all time...yet no one seems to mention him. he certainly deserves to be named with Trinidad, Gomez and Benitez, if not rated higher than them.

    Jose Napoles-fantastic fighter, who has one of the most impressive Welterweight runs ever, and the best Cuban fighter of all time. No one seems to want to mention him alongside the other Welterweight greats though.

    George Dixon-People always go on and on about how impressive Jack Johnson was becoming the first black heavyweight boxing champ, yet he wasnt even the first black boxing champ at all. That was George Dixon. in fact, he was the first black man to hold an American title in ANY sport.
    Jack Johnson gets bucketloads of credit and publicity, yet Dixon does it 18 years earlier than Johnson and isnt mentioned whatsoever by anyone. thats bull****, and Johnson is overrated.(by some)

    While Im at it, Ill mention Harry Wills...he shares most of Johnson's biggest wins(AND has a win over Firpo), yet never gets mentioned in heavyweight rankings, despite many people having Johnson as high as #3! thats baloney.
    isnt that sad?

    when it comes to ur question, there are almost no mentions at all for asian fighters lad...

    rolando navarette...

    pongsaklek wonjongkam... guy won like 50 + consecutive fights...

    daisuke naito the wbc flyweight champ... donaire would have fought him but the country of japan does not recognize the IBF which donaire represent with his belt...

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      #22
      Originally posted by talip bin osman
      isnt that sad?

      when it comes to ur question, there are almost no mentions at all for asian fighters lad...

      rolando navarette...

      pongsaklek wonjongkam... guy won like 50 + consecutive fights...

      daisuke naito the wbc flyweight champ... donaire would have fought him but the country of japan does not recognize the IBF which donaire represent with his belt...
      Like I said there is so many overlooked fighters .I did name one was Asian in Jung Koo Chang, but as someone said alot of the lower fighters get overlooked, and alot of the lower weight fighters are from Asia. There have been lots of brillant fighters from such as Veeraphol Sahaprom- Made 14 defences of his WBC Bantamweight Title.And held onto it for 7 years 1998 to 2005.

      Pongsaklek Wonjongkam is still active, but his best days are behind him. He made 17 staright title defences of WBC Title.And held onto the title for 6 years, all defences were made in Thialind and Japan which could hurt legacy.

      And as I mentioned Jung Koo Chang known as the ''The Korean Hawk'' has been eligible for Canastota for years now, as he he retired in 1991. He made 15 defences of his of his Light Flyweight Title, before losing it to another Hall Of Famer Humberto Gonzalez on UD 12 in 89. And would challage twice for the WBC Bantamweight Title losing both attempts, before retiring.

      And there are plenty more.

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        #23
        Here are some more fighters who get overlooked in my veiw

        Gilberto Roman
        Elmer Ray
        Billy Papke
        Freddie Welsh
        Lew Jenkins
        Tom Bogs
        Luis Manuel Rodriguez
        Florentino Fernandez

        Will probaly carry on think of more, but this is a good selection of overlooked fighters.
        Last edited by Southpaw16BF; 04-21-2009, 09:40 PM.

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        • badnewsbrown
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          #24
          a couple ingle fighters come to mind - junior witter & herol graham

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          • JMM-PAC
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            #25
            thought i would bump this!!!! good thread!

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            • The Gambler1981
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              #26
              I always felt that Bob Foster never got his props that man was a killer at 175.

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              • glidesmack
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                #27
                Little guys. They're ****in good.

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                • Heru
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                  I gotta say Mike McCallum. Does not get his props imo. He beat Don Curry who had two wins over Marlon Starling and who had beaten Milton Mcrory by devastating knockout. He beat Ayub Kalule up. He dominated Mike Watson who beat Benn, and gave Eubank so much trouble. He beat Herol Graham a very underrated fighter. He beat Sumbu Kalambay at the second time of asking. He beat Steve Collins who went on to beat Benn and Eubank. He knocked Julian Jackson out who knocked out Terry Norris. Norris went onto beat John Mugabi,Blocker,Meldrick Taylor,Curry,Castro,Brown etc.

                  He had two very debatable losses to James Toney when he was just getting past his best if the truth be known. I believe he won the second fight and the 1st was very close and probably a draw was the correct decision.
                  Spot on. McCallum would have beat Hearns if given the shot. Ricardo Lopez.

                  Kawashima
                  Rafael Marquez (a Hall of Famer even before the 2 FOTY's against Vazquez)
                  Guillermo Jones

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                  • jri9d0
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                    #29
                    I would have to say Meldrick Taylor. So many people have written him off after the JCC fight, it was almost like he was the modern day version of the plague with no place in the history of boxing. It always irritated the hell out of me when they would mention great Philly fighters and Meldrick would almost never get mentioned.

                    Peace.

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