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  • Steak
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    #1

    Most overlooked fighters?

    Not underrated, the ones that never get mentioned at all.

    Carlos Ortiz-One of the greatest lightweights of all time, and arguably the best Puerto Rican fighter of all time...yet no one seems to mention him. he certainly deserves to be named with Trinidad, Gomez and Benitez, if not rated higher than them.

    Jose Napoles-fantastic fighter, who has one of the most impressive Welterweight runs ever, and the best Cuban fighter of all time. No one seems to want to mention him alongside the other Welterweight greats though.

    George Dixon-People always go on and on about how impressive Jack Johnson was becoming the first black heavyweight boxing champ, yet he wasnt even the first black boxing champ at all. That was George Dixon. in fact, he was the first black man to hold an American title in ANY sport.
    Jack Johnson gets bucketloads of credit and publicity, yet Dixon does it 18 years earlier than Johnson and isnt mentioned whatsoever by anyone. thats bull****, and Johnson is overrated.(by some)

    While Im at it, Ill mention Harry Wills...he shares most of Johnson's biggest wins(AND has a win over Firpo), yet never gets mentioned in heavyweight rankings, despite many people having Johnson as high as #3! thats baloney.
  • dannyl15
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    #2
    I used to think Clottey was underrated, but now he finally gets his chance. Glenn Johnson is underrated to me as well.

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    • Bushbaby
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      #3
      Originally posted by dannyl15
      I used to think Clottey was underrated, but now he finally gets his chance. Glenn Johnson is underrated to me as well.
      Both fabulous choices right there,doesnt get much more accurate than that!!!

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      • Silencers
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        #4
        On these boards quite a lot of old time great fighters get overlooked, guys like Duilo Loi, Emile Griffith, Nino Benvenuti and so forth rarely get mentioned here, even Ricardo Lopez, although it's not that bad with him.

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        • Dynamite Kid
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          #5
          I gotta say Mike McCallum. Does not get his props imo. He beat Don Curry who had two wins over Marlon Starling and who had beaten Milton Mcrory by devastating knockout. He beat Ayub Kalule up. He dominated Mike Watson who beat Benn, and gave Eubank so much trouble. He beat Herol Graham a very underrated fighter. He beat Sumbu Kalambay at the second time of asking. He beat Steve Collins who went on to beat Benn and Eubank. He knocked Julian Jackson out who knocked out Terry Norris. Norris went onto beat John Mugabi,Blocker,Meldrick Taylor,Curry,Castro,Brown etc.

          He had two very debatable losses to James Toney when he was just getting past his best if the truth be known. I believe he won the second fight and the 1st was very close and probably a draw was the correct decision.

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          • Southpaw16BF
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            #6
            Manuel Ortiz
            Tiger Flowers
            Jeff Chandler
            Jack Dempsey (The Nonpareil)
            Pascual Perez
            Tommy Ryan
            Holman Williams
            Benny Lynch
            Rodrigo Valdez
            Joe Brown
            Abe Attell
            Bennie Briscoe
            Jung Koo Chang
            Jackie Blackburn(As a fighter not a trainer)
            Victor Galindez
            Sammy Angott

            Plenty more, but I feel most of the time there fighters get overlooked or dont get talked about enough. Some very good and brillant fighters here.
            Last edited by Southpaw16BF; 04-21-2009, 12:11 PM.

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            • Dynamite Kid
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              #7
              Originally posted by blackirish137
              Not underrated, the ones that never get mentioned at all.

              Carlos Ortiz-One of the greatest lightweights of all time, and arguably the best Puerto Rican fighter of all time...yet no one seems to mention him. he certainly deserves to be named with Trinidad, Gomez and Benitez, if not rated higher than them.

              Jose Napoles-fantastic fighter, who has one of the most impressive Welterweight runs ever, and the best Cuban fighter of all time. No one seems to want to mention him alongside the other Welterweight greats though.

              George Dixon-People always go on and on about how impressive Jack Johnson was becoming the first black heavyweight boxing champ, yet he wasnt even the first black boxing champ at all. That was George Dixon. in fact, he was the first black man to hold an American title in ANY sport.
              Jack Johnson gets bucketloads of credit and publicity, yet Dixon does it 18 years earlier than Johnson and isnt mentioned whatsoever by anyone. thats bull****, and Johnson is overrated.(by some)

              While Im at it, Ill mention Harry Wills...he shares most of Johnson's biggest wins(AND has a win over Firpo), yet never gets mentioned in heavyweight rankings, despite many people having Johnson as high as #3! thats baloney.


              Hey blackirish tell me about Frankie Randall. I really like Randall, but i dont know too much about him and have only seen him against Chavez.

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              • S.G.
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                #8
                Originally posted by Southpaw16bf
                Manuel Ortiz
                Tiger Flowers
                Jeff Chandler
                Jack Dempsey (The Nonpareil)
                Pascual Perez
                Tommy Ryan
                Holman Williams
                Benny Lynch
                Rodrigo Valdez
                Joe Brown
                Abe Attell
                Bennie Briscoe
                Jung Koo Chang
                Jackie Blackburn(As a fighter not a trainer)
                Victor Galindez
                Sammy Angott

                Plenty more, but I feel most of the time there fighters get overlooked or dont get talked about enough. Some very good and brillant fighters here.
                tiger flowers is a good call

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                • Juof
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                  #9
                  rocky balboa

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                  • oldgringo
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                    #10
                    There are plenty of overlooked fighters...often times they are smaller men.

                    Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson - One of the smoothest operators of his time...Too Sharp could hit, defend and he was a southpaw. He was a decorated amateur and an excellent pro. I rarely (never) see his name mentioned in NSB or in the history section. At his best he had no equal as a Flyweight, dominating all opposition he faced. Then he moves up a division and goes on to become a two-time Super Flyweight champion, beating guys like a young Fernando Montiel and Sor Vorapin. He defended his titles numerous times and he fought all comers young and old (ahem, Rafael Marquez). I think he should be in the Hall of Fame.

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