when was the last time pacquiao beat a world class fighter in HIS PRIME?

[Xplosivo]

Marco Antonio Barrera

November 2003

ding ding ding

we have a winner.

[Xplosivo]

jmm won both fights but officially they were:

1st: draw
2nd: pacquiao by controversial decision

even filipinos think pacquiao lost the second fight

[Xplosivo]

first of all most boxing fans believe JMM beat pacquiao in both fights, majority including filipinos believe JMM won the 2nd fight.

second thing, JMM wasnt in his prime so you arguably say pacquiao has lost to a past prime JMM and Morales. the judges only recognised the Morales loss though, not the second JMM fight

third, the last time he faced a world class fighter in his PRIME:

Marco Antonio Barrera

November 2003

6 years ago.

[winac]

jmm won both fights but officially they were:

1st: draw
2nd: pacquiao by controversial decision

even filipinos think pacquiao lost the second fight

Don't claim Juan Manuel Marquez wasn't in his prime when he fought Pacquiao. He is relatively old but still certainly in his prime

[thebowtod]

I wouldn't debate the draw but I also felt JMM won that also. He really came back after getting dropped 3 times in the 1st

well tell him not to go down 3 times and he wins.. but you cant do that.. pacman won the first fight because of a scoring error, and besides, no one can really say marquez won either of the fights, they were so close each time you can have it either way.

[El Jesus]

Shouldn't Pacquiao be past his prime then?

what kind of question is that?

[baracuda]

29 year olds who have been in the PRO game since age 15 at a weight where your movement and quickness account for your body of work is why. Morales was past it in that 1st pacman fight and in reality, that was his last great performence.

To answer the question, pacmans best wins are Barrera and JMM IMO. Especially Barrera.

most of great boxers start at a young age.oscar,shane,manny,jmm,mab,etc...
you still see mosely and jmm doing their thing.29 yers old,primed?i jus don't buy it

[baracuda]

jmm won both fights but officially they were:

1st: draw
2nd: pacquiao by controversial decision

even filipinos think pacquiao lost the second fight

some mexicans think jmm lost too.it goes both ways no matter how you look at it.

[baracuda]

jmm won both fights but officially they were:

1st: draw
2nd: pacquiao by controversial decision

even filipinos think pacquiao lost the second fight

some mexicans think jmm lost too.it goes both ways no matter how you look at it.

[El Jesus]

most of great boxers start at a young age.oscar,shane,manny,jmm,mab,etc...
you still see mosely and jmm doing their thing.29 yers old,primed?i jus don't buy it

First of all, oscar, shane started in the amatuers and came up in a different system. Both of them are better at adjusting defensively than morales was.

Second of all, Morales was past it early because of his style and the amount of hard fights he had against stiff competition.

MAB tuned his style to prolong his career. JMM early in his career was a patient counter puncher and only recently began a more offensive style to draw more crowds, the guy used to rarely get hit due to dominating performences. Pacman has been in some great fights, but he hasnt been in as many wars as Morales had been in, and morales never really adjusted his style later in his career.


The idea that featherweights dont burn out early being foriegn to you, and then comparing them to guys like Shane/DLH tells me everything i need to know about how long you have been following the sport. Most of those guys never make it past 30.