when was the last time pacquiao beat a world class fighter in HIS PRIME?

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you make it sound more like erik went straight as a proffessional without prior background.i agree most guys dont make it past 30 but erik is not like most guys,he was elite.pac has been in manny wars as erik,imo but you're entitled to your opinion as i am.been a boxing fan for a long time also,but it's not about me is it?

Anyone who knows boxing knows that the sub-lightweight fighters who are still prime at 30 are rare.

Anyone who knows boxing knows that Mexicans sublightweights who are prime at 30 are VERY rare. Due to their fighting style.

Anyone with half a brain could observe, that Erick managed to win one fight since 2004 and that he had a habit of getting into exchanges when he did not need to (round 12 of the first pac fight, anyone?). Throw in the weight issues in the following fights and do the math.

Sorry, but some opinions hold water (El Jesus's in this case) and some don't.

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Anyone who knows boxing knows that the sub-lightweight fighters who are still prime at 30 are rare.

Anyone who knows boxing knows that Mexicans sublightweights who are prime at 30 are VERY rare. Due to their fighting style.

That makes Pacquiao and Marquez super freaks!

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Anyone who knows boxing knows that the sub-lightweight fighters who are still prime at 30 are rare.

Anyone who knows boxing knows that Mexicans sublightweights who are prime at 30 are VERY rare. Due to their fighting style.

Anyone with half a brain could observe, that Erick managed to win one fight since 2004 and that he had a habit of getting into exchanges when he did not need to (round 12 of the first pac fight, anyone?). Throw in the weight issues in the following fights and do the math.

Sorry, but some opinions hold water (El Jesus's in this case) and some don't.

erik and jmm are very similar stylewise (both mexicans)and jmm is 36 yet doing great.and you are talking about 2004 when erik was only 28.sorry but if it makes someone only have half a brain for not agreeing with you so be it.

[Guest]

Fight 2 with morales showed how much Pac developed skill level wise.

It's amazing.

I thought Pac is 1-1 against JMM who seems to maintain his quality despite his age.

Pac has learned how to box when his anvil doesn't work.

Wasn't a big fan of having a third Morales fight or a second Barrera fight, but Pac would've made a ****** decision financially not to take either.

Don't blame him for that all.

And this fight with Hatton is the perfect combination of money and legacy fight for him.

His promoters match him very well.

[SK Champ]

Jm marquez

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erik and jmm are very similar stylewise (both mexicans)and jmm is 36 yet doing great.and you are talking about 2004 when erik was only 28.sorry but if it makes someone only have half a brain for not agreeing with you so be it.

wrong. every post of yours shows how little you know about the sport.

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That makes Pacquiao and Marquez super freaks!

Pacquiao IS a freak of nature, I have seen many fighters train, but when I saw manny at wildcard, I was thinking energizer bunny, he jsut started sparring and his conditioing was already incredible. What is also amazing is how much he keeps on improving. I remember the one handed fighter who would back up straight when hit, but make up for everything with intensity and toughness, and now we have the p4p#1 instead who has excellent movement, a great two handed attack... Anyways back to the point, Pac has also not been in wars, he destroys his opponents in his big wins. He ate some relevant leather only against Marquez and Morales (1st fight)

Marquez is not a freak of nature but he is very atypical for mexican fighter, in that he is a conterpuncher, so it's not surprising that he lasted a lot longer than Morales.

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i feel the boxing world consist of 99% ****** individuals that will say "my guy won" because he favors that fighter. unless you given more than enough proof a boxer won the fight besides saying "oh he got his **** handed to him 3 knockdowns then **he came back**" so he won. your about worthless as ****. you have no reason to comment.

i could careless if those say it can be debatable. unless someone could show me what rounds and scorecard for how they would have scored the fight. then obviously your picking your ass and then your nose with the same finger cause it'll all **** we're smelling!

-1 for jmm nuthuggers that cant grasp the concept of showing how or why he won. besides "he came back from getting knocked down 4 times" and he lost CAUSE OF THOSE KNOCKDOWNS!

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i feel the boxing world consist of 99% ****** individuals that will say "my guy won" because he favors that fighter. unless you given more than enough proof a boxer won the fight besides saying "oh he got his **** handed to him 3 knockdowns then **he came back**" so he won. your about worthless as ****. you have no reason to comment.

i could careless if those say it can be debatable. unless someone could show me what rounds and scorecard for how they would have scored the fight. then obviously your picking your ass and then your nose with the same finger cause it'll all **** we're smelling!

-1 for jmm nuthuggers that cant grasp the concept of showing how or why he won. besides "he came back from getting knocked down 4 times" and he lost CAUSE OF THOSE KNOCKDOWNS!

I hope you aren't considering yourself the other 1%.
Because this post isn't much better bro.

People agree or disagree intelligently. I thought Pac won the fight despite Marquez winning more rounds in the first fight because of the 10-6 round and I thought Marquez won by a point in the second fight because of the kd, otherwise it would've been two. Those fights were close and worthy of some debate.

It's not all nut huggery. And I like both guys..

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Anyone who knows boxing knows that the sub-lightweight fighters who are still prime at 30 are rare.

Anyone who knows boxing knows that Mexicans sublightweights who are prime at 30 are VERY rare. Due to their fighting style.

Anyone with half a brain could observe, that Erick managed to win one fight since 2004 and that he had a habit of getting into exchanges when he did not need to (round 12 of the first pac fight, anyone?). Throw in the weight issues in the following fights and do the math.

Sorry, but some opinions hold water (El Jesus's in this case) and some don't.

morales wasn't prime, but he was the only mexican to beat pac.