Would a win over JMM, be better then Mayweather's wins over Corrales or JLC?

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  • Spray_resistant
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    #21
    But I guess according to most people a Floyd win over Pac would be so much > than a win over JMM, even though both Pac/JMM fights were relatively even.....that doesn't make sense to me.

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    • Rope a Dope
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      #22
      Originally posted by Spray_resistant
      But I guess according to most people a Floyd win over Pac would be so much > than a win over JMM, even though both Pac/JMM fights were relatively even.....that doesn't make sense to me.
      Fighters lose some speed and some stamina as they move up in weight. most even show a slower work rate. Manny Pacquiao is one of the quickest fighters in the sport & Marquez is not. So when they both went up in weight its not the same. Marquez is an easier target now.

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      • talip bin osman
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        #23
        Originally posted by hammerhiem
        I have no idea why people are finding this bull**** interesting, JMM is a fcuking featherweight and has no business fighting @147.
        jmm is a ****in featherweight alright, but his best wins are not within that limit... his great wins happened @ 130 & 135...

        the fights that matter require him to go up in weight hammerhiem sir...

        if u think he has no business @ 147 bcoz he is a featherweight you would've deprived him his great wins...

        imagine not having the opportunities to fight & beat casa & diaz, while strolling down in 126 limbo with luevano & billy dib...

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        • Spacey1991
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          #24
          Nope, well I don't think so anyway...

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            #25
            Originally posted by 2501
            Why are you trying to force this fight as a credible fight at 147? you know its not. How can any fan actually be PROUD of their favorite fighter trying to take credit for beating someone who is WELL above their natural weight classes, who is OLDER, been in more WARS, how?

            This question would only be relevant if the fight were taking place at 135 or 140. Anything else is a sham.
            In the bold, you don't mean me...do you?!

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            • the_blueprint
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              #26
              it would be good but not his best i dont think, if marquez was a LWW then yes but hes not so no

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                #27
                Originally posted by Rope a Dope
                Fighters lose some speed and some stamina as they move up in weight. most even show a slower work rate. Manny Pacquiao is one of the quickest fighters in the sport & Marquez is not. So when they both went up in weight its not the same. Marquez is an easier target now.
                It is only a theoretical presumption about Marquez right now, don't get me wrong it may actually true out to be true time will tell. The problem I have is with Pac as a fighter now being perceived as light years beyond JMM and this does not accurately reflect reality.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by talip bin osman
                  jmm is a ****in featherweight alright, but his best wins are not within that limit... his great wins happened @ 130 & 135...

                  the fights that matter require him to go up in weight hammerhiem sir...

                  if u think he has no business @ 147 bcoz he is a featherweight you would've deprived him his great wins...

                  imagine not having the opportunities to fight & beat casa & diaz, while strolling down in 126 limbo with luevano & billy dib...
                  JMM hasn't fought at 147 so i haven't been deprived of anything.

                  I don't mind fighters going up 1 or 2 weights like JMM has when they get to the point their bodies can't cope with the weight drain but four? thats bollox.

                  If PBF fights JMM @ 135 then it's a fight, @ 147 it's a circus act to make money.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                    It is only a theoretical presumption about Marquez right now, don't get me wrong it may actually true out to be true time will tell. The problem I have is with Pac as a fighter now being perceived as light years beyond JMM and this does not accurately reflect reality.
                    To be honest thats more a reflection of how underrated Hatton is, Pac is being put on a pedastal because people think that losing to Floyd means that Hatton is crap and pac will win easy.

                    Where as PBF @147 is clearly a missmatch for JMM and everyone knows it, so would Pac vs PBF @147.

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                    • talip bin osman
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by hammerhiem
                      JMM hasn't fought at 147 so i haven't been deprived of anything.

                      I don't mind fighters going up 1 or 2 weights like JMM has when they get to the point their bodies can't cope with the weight drain but four? thats bollox.

                      If PBF fights JMM @ 135 then it's a fight, @ 147 it's a circus act to make money.
                      geeez hammie, tell that to roy jones & james toney... u think what they did @ HW was bollocks?

                      tell that to sam langford sir... who started from 135 all the way to HW...

                      or duran who started professionally @ 118...

                      you are underestimating jmm's ability to scale...

                      if anything if ever jmm will lose this one or his ability to fight
                      effectively @ 147 should be more attributed to him going 36 years IMHO...

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