Floyd/Pacman both 5 division "champs", Who Has Better Chance at 6th?

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  • Pacdbest
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    #101


    "I want the one with the most money. It's probably going to be Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather. Those would be the top two guys that I would want to pick first. Then you have Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton as well. I'm looking for the big fights, the ones that people want to see. This [Margarito] was a fight that people wanted to see and I want bring many more. The welterweight division is loaded," Mosley said.

    Let's see if PBF takes the Challenge??? I betcha... Pac has more of the guts to face Mosley!!

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    • Fulcrum29
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      #102
      Originally posted by Pacdbest
      JMM & MAB also made excuses not to fight Pac right away in the rematch. But eventually these guys ran out of choices & fought Pac.

      Floyd retired instead of seeking other challenges. It takes two to tango. Floyd has to give something to make the fight. Right now Mosley is willing to fight PBF but Floyd has no response still. What about Cheato calling Floyd for years??? Why does that fight didn't happen???
      Any legit offer did Floyd offer to Cotto? It can't be the opponents the one offereing Fights. Floyd has to make the fight. He has to seek the fight & make it happen.
      MAB and JMM had a reason to duck Pac after they lost since obviously if you lose already then you question your ability to beat that guy in a rematch. But Floyd never fought Mosley or Cotto yet, he challenged them and they turned him down PERIOD.
      As for Margarito, here's how that went:

      Bob Arum ALLEGEDLY offered Floyd 8 million $$$ to fight Margarito at a time when Floyd was chasing a fight with Oscar. Floyd and Arum had problems to begin with though that's not a good excuse. Either way, Arum has lied before and his 8 million offer seemed ridiculous considering Margarito himself never made even 1/10th of that. So first of all the offer is b.s. 2ndly and most importantly, Floyd made 8 million for fightign Baldomir for the WBC and IBF belts that Baldomir had. What belts did Margarito have? LOL OWNED....

      So what would you do? Fight Baldomir for 8 million and get 2 more belts to be undisputed or fight Margarito for an ALLEGED 8 million and not get **** when you own him? Common sense isn't it?

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        #103
        Originally posted by Pacdbest
        http://www.boxnews.com.ua/en/news/48...oyd-Mayweather

        "I want the one with the most money. It's probably going to be Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather. Those would be the top two guys that I would want to pick first. Then you have Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton as well. I'm looking for the big fights, the ones that people want to see. This [Margarito] was a fight that people wanted to see and I want bring many more. The welterweight division is loaded," Mosley said.

        Let's see if PBF takes the Challenge??? I betcha... Pac has more of the guts to face Mosley!!
        Wrong. PBF already challenged Mosley and was turned down. Pac never challenged Mosley. Thus the effective verdict is that: PBF HAS MORE GUTS THAN PAC TO CHALLENGE MOSLEY.

        You are owned again Pacdbreast.

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          #104
          Originally posted by Fulcrum29
          MAB and JMM had a reason to duck Pac after they lost since obviously if you lose already then you question your ability to beat that guy in a rematch. But Floyd never fought Mosley or Cotto yet, he challenged them and they turned him down PERIOD.
          As for Margarito, here's how that went:

          Bob Arum ALLEGEDLY offered Floyd 8 million $$$ to fight Margarito at a time when Floyd was chasing a fight with Oscar. Floyd and Arum had problems to begin with though that's not a good excuse. Either way, Arum has lied before and his 8 million offer seemed ridiculous considering Margarito himself never made even 1/10th of that. So first of all the offer is b.s. 2ndly and most importantly, Floyd made 8 million for fightign Baldomir for the WBC and IBF belts that Baldomir had. What belts did Margarito have? LOL OWNED....

          So what would you do? Fight Baldomir for 8 million and get 2 more belts to be undisputed or fight Margarito for an ALLEGED 8 million and not get **** when you own him? Common sense isn't it?

          That's a lot of excuses for a so called former P4P fighter. If you believe Mosley & Cotto the one that turned down PBF. Then why the hell Floyd just fought a recently lost Judah & the limited baldomir? Why not seek a great challege??? Tell me who did Floyd openly Challenge???

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            #105
            Originally posted by Pacdbest
            That's a lot of excuses for a so called former P4P fighter. If you believe Mosley & Cotto the one that turned down PBF. Then why the hell Floyd just fought a recently lost Judah & the limited baldomir? Why not seek a great challege??? Tell me who did Floyd openly Challenge???
            Excuses? Coming from the excuse king himself? Literally every single of one your Pac posts are pure 100% unbridled, unadulterated excuse apologetics. You have an excuse for every reason of why Pac is always 2nd best next to Floyd.
            Why are you asking me questions I already answered?
            I just told you that Floyd fought Baldomir because he got a career high payday 8 million to fight Baldomir AND 2 EXTRA BELTS to unify the whole division. Margarito instead went on to get owned by Clottey (until he hurt his hand) and then owned by P. Williams.
            As for the Judah fight, that was one of those situations where the fight was basically ALREADY MADE due to the fact that EVERYONE expected Judah to easily get by Baldomir. You're not from here so you don't know the significance that the fight had but leading up to it (I'm from NYC) the whole area was buzzing with it and Judah and Mayweather were common staples on urban radio like 97.1 (Hot 97 the biggest rap station in the world) where they were featured on shows and call ins and were talking huge trash to each other, so since Judah is from New York, this fight had huge heat to it and everyone expected Judah to get past Baldomir. Once Judah ****ed up and lost since the steam and momentum for their showdown was so big already Floyd went ahead with it and fought Judah anyway because the excitement of it guaranteed a lot of $$$.

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              #106
              Originally posted by Fulcrum29
              For Pacman to grab a 6th division title he'd have to go up to 154. For Floyd to grab a 6th he'd have to go to 160. Who do you think stands a better chance at obtaining a respective 6th division belt?

              Pacquaio at 154 fighting against the likes of Paul Williams and Vernon Forest or Floyd Mayweather at 160 facing the likes of Pavlik, Abraham, Sturm, etc.

              This would place either of them on the small and distinguished list of 'sextuplet title' champions of which according to wikipedia there are only 4 in history: Thomas Hearns, Oscar DLH, Hector Camacho, and James Toney.

              And do you think either one stands a chance at becoming the first ever 7 division champ, i.e. a feat that would require Pac to win a title at middleweight 160 and Floyd at super middleweight 168?
              Let's bump this again!!

              Update!!! Pac already have his 6th Division when he takes hatton OUT at 140.

              And now Get ready for the 7th Division!!! Pac KO Cotto in 8th!!!

              Hey.. Where's Floydie????? Did he get his 6th????? Did he move up to 160????

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              • Titing Kabayo
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                #107
                Pacquiao no need to go up at 154... beating Bradley @140 would give him a lineal belt @140 idiots...

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Hard2kill
                  Pacquiao no need to go up at 154... beating Bradley @140 would give him a lineal belt @140 idiots...
                  Huh? Pac is already the lineal champ at 140, remember?

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                  • Titing Kabayo
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Quiet_Storm
                    Huh? Pac is already the lineal champ at 140, remember?
                    Review the history...

                    Pac won 6 belts but 2 of them are not recognized...

                    1st fight with Barerra and that of Hatton... (126 and 140)

                    Those belts were not recognized as major belts...

                    vs Sasakul @112 - WBC
                    vs Ledwaba @ 122 - IBF
                    vs marquez @ 130 - WBC
                    vs Diaz @ 135 - WBC

                    vs Barrera @ 126 - ring belt (not major belt)
                    vs Hatton @ 140 - IBO and ring belt (not major belt)

                    If those 2 fights were major belts, there would be no more arguments... But yes, he's still a 6-weight champion... going to 7... But history will only list 5 major belts including that of Cotto, with special mention of the other 2 minor belts..
                    Last edited by Titing Kabayo; 11-13-2009, 09:11 AM.

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                    • h2k
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                      #110
                      Wow pacman was going for the 7 belt on a 7 devision this saturday it's just ****ing unbelievable....

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