Floyd/Pacman both 5 division "champs", Who Has Better Chance at 6th?

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    #21
    Originally posted by Fulcrum29
    no it doesn't. actually further research on my part has shown that manny is actually considered only a 4 division champ currently and floyd 5.

    The reason being, Manny's fight against Barrera at 125 was for the RING title but not for any real major title (wbo/ibf/wbc, etc) and then when Manny fought JMM at 125 it was a draw..so he won no real title there and moved to 130.
    The ring means more, come on now, everyone knows that. I mean look at the light heavyweight titlists outside of Chad Dawson, they're not even ranked in the top five in the division. Europeans LOOOOOVE the alphabet soup. Just an observation.

    He won Flyweight, Super Bantomweight, Featherweight, Super Featherweight, and Lightweight.

    Light Welterweight will be six.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Fulcrum29
      might be true but Floyd has far better chance to own Sturm and do a Hopkins on Pavlik @160 than Pacman does of beating P. Williams (LOL)
      I agree, but Williams doesnt even have a title.. pac would never have to fight him

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        #23
        Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
        well so in theory pac only has titles 4 divisions.
        but i'm just telling you how history will record it. i'm not that dumb to think that floyd's "title" win over baldomir was a bigger win than Barrera

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          #24
          Pacquiao is officially regarded as a 4 weight division champ

          126 doesn't count

          Pacquiao - 4 weight division champ , 3 linear titles

          Floyd - 5 weight division champ , 3 linear titles ( I think 130 was linear, correct me if i'm wrong)

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            #25
            also I should state I ****ed up because to my knowledge Pacman didn't win any title at 147 from DLH so for a 6th legit title Pacman would have to beat someone at 147 not 154, but to me that's even harder technically since 147 in my opinion has far better competition than 154 at the moment.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Fulcrum29
              go on wikipedia pacman is officially considered to have 4 titles, that's how history will record it. there are only 4 boxers in history with 5 real division titles and floyd is one of them.
              well look at your thread.

              you claim pac already has 5 yet you won't count the 126 ring belt which means he only has 4.

              you're contradicting yourself.

              plus why does pac have to go to 154?

              the 140 title doesn't count either if he beats hatton?

              if you don't count 126 then he has 4 right now. why can't he go for one of the wbc/wba/ibf/wbo belts at 140 and 147 instead of jumping all the way to paul williams at 154?

              you got me all me confused.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Real OG
                Pacquiao is officially regarded as a 4 weight division champ

                126 doesn't count

                Pacquiao - 4 weight division champ , 3 linear titles

                Floyd - 5 weight division champ , 3 linear titles ( I think 130 was linear, correct me if i'm wrong)
                i don't think floyd got credit for a lineal at 130.

                manny's lineal title at 112 is also in question. some says yes because he beat sasakul who some considered the lineal champ. others say no.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                  well look at your thread.

                  you claim pac already has 5 yet you won't count the 126 ring belt which means he only has 4.

                  you're contradicting yourself.

                  plus why does pac have to go to 154?

                  the 140 title doesn't count either if he beats hatton?

                  if you don't count 126 then he has 4 right now. why can't he go for one of the wbc/wba/ibf/wbo belts at 140 and 147 instead of jumping all the way to paul williams at 154?

                  you got me all me confused.
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                  yea I admit I ****ed up I didn't give it much forethought because I'm not all that knowledgeable on Pacquaio.


                  If 126 doesn't count then Manny has to win a title at 147 to have 6 (assuming he also wins Hatton's 140).

                  For the people that want to count 126 then 140 will be Pacman's 6th title though officially it will never be recognized as such just as "officially" Vitali Klitschko will always be recognized as a TKO loss to Lewis even though we all know who really won, simply because as legit as it is "ring magazine" is not an official sanctioning body but a ****in recreational magazine.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by dans01234
                    The ring means more, come on now, everyone knows that. I mean look at the light heavyweight titlists outside of Chad Dawson, they're not even ranked in the top five in the division. Europeans LOOOOOVE the alphabet soup. Just an observation.

                    He won Flyweight, Super Bantomweight, Featherweight, Super Featherweight, and Lightweight.

                    Light Welterweight will be six.
                    WBC International super bantamweight champion is not a title

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                      well look at your thread.

                      you claim pac already has 5 yet you won't count the 126 ring belt which means he only has 4.

                      you're contradicting yourself.

                      plus why does pac have to go to 154?

                      the 140 title doesn't count either if he beats hatton?

                      if you don't count 126 then he has 4 right now. why can't he go for one of the wbc/wba/ibf/wbo belts at 140 and 147 instead of jumping all the way to paul williams at 154?

                      you got me all me confused.
                      If Pacquiao beats Bradley, then Cotto he would be a 6 weight champ

                      Whether or not you think its fair, Pacquiao ATM is officially a 4 weight champ

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