Arum speaks on Pac vs Mayweather. "Floyd can go *** himself"

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  • crillz
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    #21
    Originally posted by jantzen212003
    u do know that pbf was with arum and tr at the time? Maybe you do but like ther rest of you pbf detractors you over look facts to form your own facts. im goin to start calling u guys Fox News!
    you guys? dogz ain't no fan boy avatars here nor fan boy signatures my point was the willingness to fight and the excuses that were made to cover up the times in between. see when you say someone doesn't generate money enough for you then THAT'S the reason you feel me, you don't then flip from 1 excuse to another son that's not the way the game is played. if it was all Belts and straps in this sport then Joshua Clottey would never have dropped his title to face Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito wouldn't have dropped his strap neither to face Miguel Cotto, straps don't mean **** when the guy you beat is a Carlos Baldomir, all you walked away with is the accomplishment, the feat as opposed to the whole glory of beating the worlds best and not just the right titleholders at the right time and weight. THAT'S my overall point about Floyd

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    • TheSurgeonMDMPH
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      #22
      Originally posted by crillz
      you guys? dogz ain't no fan boy avatars here nor fan boy signatures my point was the willingness to fight and the excuses that were made to cover up the times in between. see when you say someone doesn't generate money enough for you then THAT'S the reason you feel me, you don't then flip from 1 excuse to another son that's not the way the game is played. if it was all Belts and straps in this sport then Joshua Clottey would never have dropped his title to face Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito wouldn't have dropped his strap neither to face Miguel Cotto, straps don't mean **** when the guy you beat is a Carlos Baldomir, all you walked away with is the accomplishment, the feat as opposed to the whole glory of beating the worlds best and not just the right titleholders at the right time and weight. THAT'S my overall point about Floyd
      u guys! shyt on the baldomir w all u want! the revisionist history is easily applied to any fighters career! pbf iz and will always be the best in this era period! he could of fought plenty of fighters. I guarantee that if it was margie or cotto in baldomirs place then you would be screaming that same bs!

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      • Pullcounter
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        #23
        Originally posted by Real OG
        I'm not sure how Pac's fans feel about this but is there a good chance that Roach persuades Manny to not fight Floyd
        I think roach would put pac in with floyd, but floyd gotta let it be a 50/50 purse split.

        Manny would be game but Roach has already stated that Floyd is stylistically bad for Manny and has also said that if your going to beat Floyd, you'll look bad doing it ( Kind of like Hopkins, Whitaker )
        yes, but that's why floyd gotta make the reward worth the risk

        Like Tua said JMM would be a legacy fight but a lot easier than a Floyd fight
        true, but pac already beat JMM 2x. plus arum wants jmm to fight valero before he can get a shot at pac.

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        • el malo
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          #24
          What about the little fact that Mayweather has said many times to the media that he would never do business with Bob Arum again. “But he could go f*** himself, tell him that,” said Arum
          one of floyd's many reasons not to fight marg and cotto was that he would never do business with bob again now with the irs on his back floyd needs bob LOL. bob just made a new fan, tell em bobfather lol!!!

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          • crillz
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            #25
            Originally posted by jantzen212003
            u guys! shyt on the baldomir w all u want! the revisionist history is easily applied to any fighters career! pbf iz and will always be the best in this era period! he could of fought plenty of fighters. I guarantee that if it was margie or cotto in baldomirs place then you would be screaming that same bs!
            no I wouldn't have man because he beat Diego I had no complaints, when beat Castillo the 2nd time I forgave him for the first time, when beat Gatti I understood why he did it but Mitchell? Judah? Baldomir? De La Hoya? Hatton at 147 after what Collazo did to him there, not even attempting to become a multiple division champ by facing Ricky where he belongs the way Manny Pacquiao is about to do. things is all you can say is 6 time champ in 5 different classes but all you can proudly speak of is Genaro, Diego and Jose Luis which is only 3 of 6, for the rest of them there were better opponents to face whom were champions, no excuses just facts. he didn't stick around to face the best fighters in the world just a careful selection of the batch..

            as I said before Joshua Clottey vacated the IBF strap to face Miguel Cotto, he could have held the belt ransom facing nobodies or known guys that he can clearly beat but he's a warrior, he doesn't go for that **** he wants to share the ring amongst ONLY the elite of the sport, his position as a pound for pound Welterweight demands he fights nothing but the best and him as the warrior he is he is fulfilling that even if it means he has to vacate the strap, at the end of the day there are too many straps to even give a **** what champion you are, it's about the opposition too, the opposition is actually more important at times, Roy Jones Jr and Tommy Hearns is a good example of that, they both share amazing accomplishments as far as titles and ranks go but what separates the 2 regardless of championships is the quality of opponents, the monsters they've tamed in their times. THAT'S the determining factor in mostly any case..

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