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    http://www.*************.com/headlin...vs-mayweather/

    By Scoop Malinowski on April 16th, 2009

    While there is a general assumption that Manny Pacquiao will get by Ricky Hatton next month and then move on to face Floyd Mayweather later in 2009, Bob Arum wasn’t so sure. “I haven’t talked to Manny about it because we’re concentrating on Hatton because Hatton is a tough fight,” Arum said this week. “The question with a Mayweather fight is at what weight? That’s the big question. At 140 I don’t think there’s any problem making that fight. If Floyd wants to come in at a higher weight, I don’t know.”

    “A catch-weight is a possibility also. But none of that has been discussed and I won’t let anyone discuss it. Until after this fight.”

    What about the little fact that Mayweather has said many times to the media that he would never do business with Bob Arum again. “But he could go f*** himself, tell him that,” said Arum, as the reporters Franklin McNeil, George Willis and Tim Smith all burst into laughter.

    I approached Arum a few minutes later for clarification, explaining the reason Mayweather said he won’t do business with Top Rank again was because he used it as a handy excuse to duck Cotto and Margarito when Arum tried to produce Cotto-Mayweather and Margarito-Mayweather clashes over the last two years.

    Arum’s reply: “F*** Mayweather. Pacquiao’s the big attraction. He has to come to us if he wants it. If he doesn’t come to us, there’s dozens of other guys we can fight.”

    Mayweather may have to come to terms with the fact he may have to accept the short end of the purse with Pacquiao, along with moving back down to 140. Because Mayweather really doesn’t have any other viable options, as Juan Manuel Marquez reportedly won’t fight him at 147, Sugar Shane Mosley is too much of a risk, and Paul Williams is even more of a dangerous risk for Floyd than Mosley.

    This is all assuming Pacquaio takes care of business with Hatton, which is far from a certainty.

  • #2
    Bob Arum shouldn't be holding back, he should say what he truly feels! lolz

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    • #3
      we will hear from floyd after the fight

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      • #4
        Fight should happen next year if they both win.

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        • #5
          i wouldn't be surprised if mayweather-pacquiao never happens.

          1. pacquiao has big money fight options elsewhere.

          2. pacquiao is co-promoted by golden boy and top rank. wouldn't it be in top rank's and golden boy's interest for pacquiao-marquez 3 , pacquiao-cotto , pacquiao-mosley?

          3. if pacquiao beats hatton he'd have won titles at 112 , 122 , 126 , 130 , 135 and 140. that's 5. a title at 147 would be historic to tie with oscar's titles in 6 divisions. floyd has no title at 147. cotto and shane does have a 147 title , and again , shane and cotto are promoted by pac's promoters.

          4. roach is no fool. floyd matchup would be tougher for manny than say cotto or aging mosley or a slowing down marquez. for roach as manny's advisor , manny has a better chance winning those fights than against floyd who could be a stylistic nightmare for manny.

          unless floyd makes MAJOR concessions as far as money , weight class , etc. , i can see a mayweather-pacquiao fight not happening.

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          • #6
            Mr boat buyer should fight Pac at 140 or not fight him at all. Or if Arum truly ain't the obstacle he's supposed to be, how about Cotto at 147 if he beats Clottey and a SSM fight don't happen for either one of em.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
              i wouldn't be surprised if mayweather-pacquiao never happens.

              1. pacquiao has big money fight options elsewhere.

              2. pacquiao is co-promoted by golden boy and top rank. wouldn't it be in top rank's and golden boy's interest for pacquiao-marquez 3 , pacquiao-cotto , pacquiao-mosley?

              3. if pacquiao beats hatton he'd have won titles at 112 , 122 , 126 , 130 , 135 and 140. that's 5. a title at 147 would be historic to tie with oscar's titles in 6 divisions. floyd has no title at 147. cotto and shane does have a 147 title , and again , shane and cotto are promoted by pac's promoters.

              4. roach is no fool. floyd matchup would be tougher for manny than say cotto or aging mosley or a slowing down marquez. for roach as manny's advisor , manny has a better chance winning those fights than against floyd who could be a stylistic nightmare for manny.

              unless floyd makes MAJOR concessions as far as money , weight class , etc. , i can see a mayweather-pacquiao fight not happening.
              Good post and I agree with all of it... but I think most fighters including Manny, still think Floyd is the man to beat, even if hes semi retired... I think most fighters think he is still the man to beat, and if they can beat Floyd then they will truly be the best in the game.

              I think Manny wants to prove that against Floyd.

              But I agree with you, as far as the promotors are concerned... it's the last thing they would want...

              They could make way more money fighting Mosley, Marquez, or Cotto... with a good chance of winning.. rather then face floyd for one big payday, and a good possibility of losing...

              Not that Mosley marquez or Cotto couldnt beat Pacman, they sure as hell could, I see Floyd as a bigger threat though as far as being able to really beat Pacman.

              Although, it would be the first fight I wouldnt bet on Floyd to win...

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              • #8
                His relationship with Bob HASNT improved since he turned down fights with Margarito and Cotto due to him "not being able to do business with Arum"

                I wonder what his excuse will be if he signs to fight Pac. Arum just clearly told Floyd to "go *** himself" Surely that wont patch things up between the 2.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                  I've always said we should cut the charade of the weigh-in and skip to where the fighters actually come in at fight night. Both won't be 140 by fight-night, so why bother unless you are hoping for unhealthy fighter(s). Both fought at 147/WW before so I don't see the problem as far as weight.
                  Making the fight with Arum as promoter....might be a different story.

                  This way, if the fight is held at 147/WW, Floyd can fight Pac and then fight Cotto and/or Mosley.
                  floyd won't have a belt at 147.

                  pac's people will ask for it to be at 140 watch.

                  pac and then cotto for floyd? uncle bob will NEVER let that happen.

                  golden boy wouldn't want that either.

                  floyd is in a bad position. jmm , shane , cotto , pac are all either top rank or gbp fighters.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
                    Good post and I agree with all of it... but I think most fighters including Manny, still think Floyd is the man to beat, even if hes semi retired... I think most fighters think he is still the man to beat, and if they can beat Floyd then they will truly be the best in the game.

                    I think Manny wants to prove that against Floyd.

                    But I agree with you, as far as the promotors are concerned... it's the last thing they would want...

                    They could make way more money fighting Mosley, Marquez, or Cotto... with a good chance of winning.. rather then face floyd for one big payday, and a good possibility of losing...

                    Not that Mosley marquez or Cotto couldnt beat Pacman, they sure as hell could, I see Floyd as a bigger threat though as far as being able to really beat Pacman.

                    Although, it would be the first fight I wouldnt bet on Floyd to win...
                    i really don't think manny worries about proving himself against floyd.

                    put it this way. if floyd comes back , at minimum , floyd would want 50-50 right? even if floyd is the bigger money fight......would manny make more money fighting for 50% against floyd or 70% in big money fights elsewhere?

                    and even if it's not all about the money , which is bull because as a pro it is ALL about the money , could we say anything really bad about manny fighting say cotto or marquez or shane?

                    would manny even look bad if he were to not fight floyd and fight cotto , mosley or marquez instead?

                    floyd might be the former #1 p4p fighter and the greater fighter of those 3 , but a third against his arch rival marquez or a belt in a 6th weight division against mosley or cotto ain't exactly gonna hurt manny's legacy.

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