Insider Notebook: Oscar is No Manny, Hopkins-Williams

[Mr. Philadel]

Hopkins can't even make 160 anymore.

It's just a ploy by Paul, so that when Hopkins turns down the offer, Paul's fans can claim another "duck".
If Williams was serious about fighting Hopkins he'd go to a catchweight of 170, just 2lbs north of 168 : The division Paul said he'd fight Calzaghe at.

exactly

[Doc Holliday]

Im not a de la hoya fan by no strech but it sounds to me like bobby arum is trying to throw some heavy ass stones at the golden boy's statue, true oscar is no ray lenoard but in 20 years everyone is gonna remeber the golden boy

Really, man. It really shows how much the split affected him. Ha ha. Or maybe it's cause DLH beat him in court, which is supposed to be Ol' Bob's turf.

[Motofan]

So a page full of sour g****s from promoters is called "insider" now?

[Pullcounter]

Im not a de la hoya fan by no strech but it sounds to me like bobby arum is trying to throw some heavy ass stones at the golden boy's statue, true oscar is no ray lenoard but in 20 years everyone is gonna remeber the golden boy

that's pretty much what arum said... dlh ain't great, but popular

[Pullcounter]

Really, man. It really shows how much the split affected him. Ha ha. Or maybe it's cause DLH beat him in court, which is supposed to be Ol' Bob's turf.

yeah, but arum got pac and pac destroyed dlh...

[jvsnypes]

Arum and his team put in a lot of work to build Oscars image.But at the end of the day,it was Oscars good looks, charisma, and big heart in the ring that made him who he was.He had the same elements that made Leonard and Ali so great.He was masterful in front of a camera and in the ring he would fight his ass off.When pure boxing skill would not get the job done,he would kick in another gear, bite down and brawl with the best of them.This led to very exciting fights.Could Roy Jones or Mayweather build that type of drama in the ring?Those guys are too cautious in the ring and took little to no chances in the ring.These guys also catered to the hip hop generation,but that generation is not the ones filling the seats.They rely on pure skill but its heart and taking risks that make you a crowd favorite.When fans see a guy that is willing to leave everything in the ring,they anticipate his upcoming fight.They know they will get their money's worth.It will be a long time before you see another fighter of Oscar's magnitude.Manny is a very good fighter,but he doesn't have Oscar's charisma.Also,is it me,or does Manny have a problem fighting black fighters?You can't just beat up on Mexicans and call yourself the best.When will he fight Tim Bradley or Holt at 140?How about Nate Campbell?These are good solid fighters that produce exciting fights.Oscar fought the best black fighters of his era.So the De La Hoya haters need to step back and step off.To me, he was a throw back fighter.He fought the best.Ray Robinson lost a whole lot of fights,but he is not remembered for that.Duran, Hagler, Hearns,Leonard,Ali, Louis, and even Holyfield lost fights.But they're not remembered for that.They are remembered for fighting the best of they're time and win, lose, or draw, they kept you on the edge of your seat.Now think back.How many times did Oscar have you on the edge of your seat?Ok. Think back again,with the exception of Holyfield and maybe Tyson, what other fighter had you feeling that type of excitement in that era?Maybe Tito. Just admit it,like him or hate him,Oscar was the man.

[hookoutofhell]

im not sure its williams calling out hopkins but the other way round i think hopkins sees an opportunity to get into the ring one last time. he has been chasing a fight with adamek and since that has fallen through he hasn't committed himself entirely to retirement. hes been yearningto get back into the ring but a fight with any worthwile opponent like kessler and dawson is risky and he could lose it.

however a fight with williams makes alot of sense for the shrewd and gay boy ****** that is Nard. hewill outweigh him on fight night by anything between 10-15 pounds, he knows that williams if he does come in will not put on too much weight as he will be looking to still be able to make 160.

iv a big admirer of b-hop and his skills and craftiness but his instence on calling out smaller men like DLh, pavlik, tito, vargas, mayorga and now williams is embarassing.

seriously bernard grow a pair.

[MissDeeCole]

whata fraud

[Mr. Philadel]

im not sure its williams calling out hopkins but the other way round i think hopkins sees an opportunity to get into the ring one last time. he has been chasing a fight with adamek and since that has fallen through he hasn't committed himself entirely to retirement. hes been yearningto get back into the ring but a fight with any worthwile opponent like kessler and dawson is risky and he could lose it.

however a fight with williams makes alot of sense for the shrewd and gay boy ****** that is Nard. hewill outweigh him on fight night by anything between 10-15 pounds, he knows that williams if he does come in will not put on too much weight as he will be looking to still be able to make 160.

iv a big admirer of b-hop and his skills and craftiness but his instence on calling out smaller men like DLh, pavlik, tito, vargas, mayorga and now williams is embarassing.

seriously bernard grow a pair.

Bernard didnt call Williams out .......pump ya breaks......READ the article again bro

[brownsugar74]

Paul has called out Bhop before,.. and Bhop told Paul that he didn't think it would be a good Idea,.. because he's so much naturally bigger and more experience,.. but he said if Paul Keeps pushing for it,. then he'll gladly beat some sense into Paul...