Floyd Mayweather Jr Told Me "No" - Says Shane Mosley

[GunzNButter]

PBF is gonna look real bad if he avoids Mosley this time. I'm sorry you guys but BOTH Pac and jmm will be tune-ups for Floyd. Floyds real Test will be Mosley. Cotto is not a Test Sorry

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PBF is gonna look real bad if he avoids Mosley this time. I'm sorry you guys but BOTH Pac and jmm will be tune-ups for Floyd. Floyds real Test will be Mosley. Cotto is not a Test Sorry

I agree with you. Guys on here just don't get it! If your a true and real
boxing fan, you know what's real by watching the styles of boxers and
seeing who has the edge over who and to me Miguel Cotto is not much
of a threat to Floyd at all with an exception of a big punch and that's
not just a Floyd fan opinion that's a boxing fan opinion. Cotto is
always there to get tagged, rarely displays defense and comes in
with his head down and that's why Zab caught him early on and
Margarito hit him with 3 upper cuts. Floyd would have no trouble
countering and hitting Cotto anytime he wanted. The only thing
Floyd would have to watch from Cotto is the pressure and I feel
Floyd will be able to neutralize him. Mosley could be a difficult fight
because he doesn't go down for nobody and is tough to hurt
and Floyd possibly won't have the power to put Mosley out and
the fight will be competitive but with that said neither could Cotto
and Cotto still out boxed Mosley for the win so I don't see how
Floyd couldn't either with his safety first defensive style.

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Glad that you cleared that up. I don't come from wherever it is you come from, lol.......... that doesn't change that JLC made Floyd his girlfriend

No worries, communication is an important part of understanding one another.
Castillo lost twice end of story.

[6Bound]

Cotto is very much a threat to Floyd imo....Cotto would put his hand up Mayweathers skirt and make him feel really uncomfortable..And I dont see Mayweather knocking him out so we can forget that..What i do wanna see is Floyds reaction when Cotto starts landing to the body and head...Cuz Cotto can crack. Belive that.

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Cotto is very much a threat to Floyd imo....Cotto would put his hand up Mayweathers skirt and make him feel really uncomfortable..And I dont see Mayweather knocking him out so we can forget that..What i do wanna see is Floyds reaction when Cotto starts landing to the body and head...Cuz Cotto can crack. Belive that.

You have your opinion and I am happy to debate this theory but what
does Floyd block most of the time? His body! Name one fighter throughout
Floyd's career that was able to get to Mayweather's body effectively
to hurt him? Castillo maybe? Who else? Floyd has fought guys bigger
and stronger than Cotto before and push them around like nothing (Ndou/Corrales) & they were big punchers like Cotto. Floyd style is too defensive for Cotto. Cotto leaves himself wide open for all types of punches. Cotto has been hit and hurt by Torres, Corley, Judah, Mosley, Margarito........name how many times Floyd's been hit effectively using a defensive style? Cotto's not quick enough or fast enough and smart enough to make Floyd fight his fight. Floyd is too technical for Cotto. The only thing Cotto posesses over Floyd is power and in order to be effective you have to be able to hit your target. I tell you what, If/when that fight ever happens, you bet all your points on Cotto & I will bet all mine on Floyd, deal?

[6Bound]

You have your opinion and I am happy to debate this theory but what
does Floyd block most of the time? His body! Name one fighter throughout
Floyd's career that was able to get to Mayweather's body effectively
to hurt him? Castillo maybe? Who else? Floyd has fought guys bigger
and stronger than Cotto before and push them around like nothing (Ndou/Corrales) & they were big punchers like Cotto. Floyd style is too defensive for Cotto. Cotto leaves himself wide open for all types of punches. Cotto has been hit and hurt by Torres, Corley, Judah, Mosley, Margarito........name how many times Floyd's been hit effectively using a defensive style? Cotto's not quick enough or fast enough and smart enough to make Floyd fight his fight. Floyd is too technical for Cotto. The only thing Cotto posesses over Floyd is power and in order to be effective you have to be able to hit your target. I tell you what, If/when that fight ever happens, you bet all your points on Cotto & I will bet all mine on Floyd, deal?

Yeah interesting points and Mayweathers quite the ring technician no doubt and Cottos not quite on that level.But the kid is smart and deceptive.

I would like to say weve seen mayweather being backed into the ropes and he hasnt faced someone who can find the body like Cotto. With that said who knows what will happen. But u have to belive that Cotto is gonna land and I wanna see how FLoyd reacts to that.

The Corley, Torres and Ndou fights were not at 47 i belive. And looking at the Ndou fight he couldnt match Cotto for power at all. Ndou throws arm-punches in my opinion which never seemed to bother Cotto at all..

Judah made Mayweather take a seat on the canvas lets not forget that. Judah stunned Cotto but cotto didnt seem to be in any SERIOUS danger imo. And we saw Cotto eat those lefts all night untill Judah was stopped badly.

I dont remember Cotto being any serious trouble against Mosley either. He was able to walk through Mosleys power all night.I do remember Mosley saying after the fight that Cotto had him stunned a couple times..Take from that what you will.


And deal if it ever happens lol..

[6Bound]

I forgot to add that I cant claim to be an expert on Cotto..Ive just recently caught up or rewatched some of his older fights cuz im trying to gauge his style for the Clottey fight.

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Yeah interesting points and Mayweathers quite the ring technician no doubt and Cottos not quite on that level.But the kid is smart and deceptive.

I would like to say weve seen mayweather being backed into the ropes and he hasnt faced someone who can find the body like Cotto. With that said who knows what will happen. But u have to belive that Cotto is gonna land and I wanna see how FLoyd reacts to that.

The Corley, Torres and Ndou fights were not at 47 i belive. And looking
at the Ndou fight he couldnt match Cotto for power at all. Ndou throws arm-punches in my opinion which never seemed to bother Cotto at all..

Judah made Mayweather take a seat on the canvas lets not forget that. Judah stunned Cotto but cotto didnt seem to be in any SERIOUS danger imo. And we saw Cotto eat those lefts all night untill Judah was stopped badly.

I dont remember Cotto being any serious trouble against Mosley either. He was able to walk through Mosleys power all night.I do remember Mosley saying after the fight that Cotto had him stunned a couple times..Take from that what you will.


And deal if it ever happens lol..

Yeah Zab did make Floyd glove touch the canvas and to me I considered
that a knocked down because Floyd went into that punch and it sent him
back so we do agree on that. I did see Cotto in trouble when Zab caught
him with that first uppercut that busted his mouth wide open but Zab
couldn't keep his composure and the 2 low blows from Cotto didn't help
much. Emmanuel Steward even said all Zab would have to do is let his
right go because Cotto was wide open for it all night and Floyd has the
best lead right hand in the biz.

I think a fight with Cotto/Mayweather would boil down to who can make
who fight their fight. There was one time in the Mosley fight when he had Cotto in trouble but the ref stepped in to clean up the water on the canvas that had the whole Madison Square Guarden booing.

I think at 154/160 De La Hoya has more power than Cotto and Floyd ate them shots pretty well. I see Cotto coming in trying to force his will on
Floyd but Floyd keeping Cotto in the middle of the ring like he did Gatti
(Not saying Gatti is on Cotto's level) but both are fighters who depend
a lot on their power. Margarito (Aside from alleged plaster) took Cotto's
best punch away & dictated the fight.

I think Floyd can take Cotto's punch away and just out box him, also I
think that Floyd takes a hit much better than people give him credit for
and is a pretty tough guy. Cotto is definitely a strong competitive guy but
he takes too much leather to land his own and Floyd is fast and can take advantage of an opening better, more frequently then any other fighter could.

I pick Floyd because of his technical skills, plus I saw how Cotto become
the hunted when he didn't have a clue to control Margarito and frankly
didn't have to take that much punishment if he had the ring smarts to neutralize Margarito's pressure like Williams and Mosley did. Cotto was/is clearly the better fighter between him and Margarito but Cotto didn't know how to exploit Margarito 1 dimensional style (Alleged Plaster aside). With that said I just feel Floyd is more experienced and technical than Cotto
and lil more seasoned under pressure.

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I forgot to add that I cant claim to be an expert on Cotto..Ive just recently caught up or rewatched some of his older fights cuz im trying to gauge his style for the Clottey fight.

Yeah, I've been watching Cotto fight since he made his big debut
at 140 and frankly I see the vulnerability he has defensively, offensively
he is very good but when your in the ring with a guy that can take your
best offensive arsenal how will you win after that? Being a championship
fighter takes all different elements in the ring. The Mosley fight showed
that Cotto can be effective but with someone of his talent, Mosley should
not have been that difficult (Not taking anything from Mosley either)
But Mosley took Cotto's best shots & stayed competitive. When the
Margarito fight was announced I said "Cotto is going to lose" because
I knew that his aggressive style would be neutralized by Margarito's
aggression after watching Margarito walk down the bigger, heavy hitting
Kermit Cintron. Miguel Cotto to me is a big puncher and that's it and
Margarito proved it by walking through Cotto's best applying the pressure
and taking his body punch away. All in all would be great to finally see
Floyd and Cotto in the ring together. Cotto/Clottey will be EXPLOSIVE
because I believe that Cotto will make clottey fight more than he usually
does in the ring. I say Cotto definitely has a chance but am leaning towards Clottey but still have to wait and see before confirming.

[GunzNButter]

I agree with you. Guys on here just don't get it! If your a true and real
boxing fan, you know what's real by watching the styles of boxers and
seeing who has the edge over who and to me Miguel Cotto is not much
of a threat to Floyd at all with an exception of a big punch and that's
not just a Floyd fan opinion that's a boxing fan opinion. Cotto is
always there to get tagged, rarely displays defense and comes in
with his head down and that's why Zab caught him early on and
Margarito hit him with 3 upper cuts. Floyd would have no trouble
countering and hitting Cotto anytime he wanted. The only thing
Floyd would have to watch from Cotto is the pressure and I feel
Floyd will be able to neutralize him. Mosley could be a difficult fight
because he doesn't go down for nobody and is tough to hurt
and Floyd possibly won't have the power to put Mosley out and
the fight will be competitive but with that said neither could Cotto
and Cotto still out boxed Mosley for the win so I don't see how
Floyd couldn't either with his safety first defensive style.

It was reported that Mosley had a 60% nasal blockage in the Cotto fight. Mosley also didn't have Naseem in his corner during the Cotto fight. With Naseem training him Shane is using his Jab pretty well and he is throwing better body punches. Cotto didn't want to fight Mosley after Mosley destroyed Margo. People are making excuses saying Margo Cheated against Cotto just like he did against Mosley, BUT THERE IS NO PROOF THAT MARGO CHEATED AGAINST COTTO. Cotto took a Loss sorry. Mayweather is a Good Boxer but you guys are putting to much emphasis on him OUTBOXING shane Mosley. Mayweathers Last two fights with DeLaHoya and Hatton, he did some good OUTBOXING but he was getting hammered on the Ropes as well. WHICH MEANS he can be pressured and it is possible to cut the ring off on him. Floyd can not make this mistake with laying on the Ropes with Shane Mosley. Mosley can pressure him like Hatton and Oscar did on the Ropes but with MORE POWER and SPEED. Shane Mosley is also faster than Zab Judah, FLOYD IS NOT SORRY. Look back at that Judah-Mayweather fight and you will see that Judah was outspeeding Mayweather even in the Late rounds, Mayweather's SKILLS and TIMING was just superior. Floyd knows his first L will come from Mosley.