Will Paul Williams eventually grow into the heavyweight division?

[THE REED]

Call Peter what you want but he was also a top 5 heavy at the time and Vitali would have beaten anyone in the division that night as he schooled Gomez as well this year.

Vitali stayed in shape and doesnt abuse his body during the layoff, so there are some parallels with PBF as he is dedicated in the same way. So we should hope to see PBF in good form in a comeback without a tune up.

the styles needed for timing are completely different...

sam peter and manny pacquio?

one of these fighters you need split second timing to hit them...

the other one you dont.


that is what we are discussing...

[Tha_Greatest]

Wow.... Im not blaming anything... and im not excusing floyd if he loses... im not a floyd nuthugger, so i really could give a ****... and to be honest i wanna see pacman beat him...

but regardless of all that...

it doesnt matter whose fault it is, that he was laid off... at the end of the day... pacman would of beaten an inactive Floyd....

theres no other way to shape that.. its the truth... he would of beaten a floyd with 2 years laid off...


Fighting sam peter requires no timing... so stop using vitali as a reason.



Now the way its lookin is he is going to have a tune up first and then try and fight the winner of pacman hatton... so all this is probably null and void...

LOL, i still wanna go on with this subject, i just need to sound like a broken record to get my point across while you start saying what you said in yor post in red


now it doesnt matter, pac beating floyd due to 2 year layoff shouldnt be a reason for coming back and losing, (Look at George Foreman)retired and still was a champ who was a punching bag

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

thats why i said probably, read it again ,you also have no idea what he eats so thats me just being honest to you,

i dont want you going to my message boards again trying to explain your maybe right theories like when you tried to about floyd and his layoffs


like i said he probably eats once a day at a salad bar or some ****

post it up, and post as many of those food eating festivities up to see if its not a one time thing

LOL What?

Your post history is already a ****fest, and now this - P. Will "eats once a day at a salad bar or some ****". And you require lots of pictorial and filmic evidence before you will concede this is probably not true. Special needs much?

[THE REED]

LOL, i still wanna go on with this subject, i just need to sound like a broken record to get my point across while you start saying what you said in yor post in red


now it doesnt matter, pac beating floyd due to 2 year layoff shouldnt be a reason for coming back and losing, (Look at George Foreman)retired and still was a champ who was a punching bag

does beating a fast in and out explosive fighter like pacman, require timing for both offense and defense, in order to succesfully beat him?

It sure DOESNT to beat Sam Peter...

[Tha_Greatest]

why do you keep talking about vitali and peter?

what kind of timing was needed to fight peter?

Peter was a walking punching bag that required nothing but a little movement and a solid jab and that was IT... for all we know Vitalis timing was off, but it didnt make a damn difference because of how **** sam peter was...

so using that example doesnt work at all...

im talking about welterweights.. fast fighters, fighters like pacman... fighters where you NEED timing to beat them, like Floyd would need in order to beat Pac.

How do you not understand that?...

nyahahaha, George Foreman is the biggest fattest punching bag and he definitely had a successful comeback, LOL, fatttest pig and oldest pig ever was supremely successful against a the many top opponents,LOL

[THE REED]

nyahahaha, George Foreman is the biggest fattest punching bag and he definitely had a successful comeback, LOL, fatttest pig and oldest pig ever was supremely successful against a the many top opponents,LOL

your mocking yourself at this stage with refusal to answer my exact question.

so just forget it.

needing timing against a heavyweight and timing against a fighter like pacman, are two seperate things... you obviously do not understand that.

[Tha_Greatest]

does beating a fast in and out explosive fighter like pacman, require timing for both offense and defense, in order to succesfully beat him?

It sure DOESNT to beat Sam Peter...

floyd is probably more quicker and explosive than Pac, whats the problem is he not staying in shape, you cant blame pac for floyd undiscipled retirement actions, floyds still in shapeLOL, this is hilarious, lets see your new response

[THE REED]

floyd is probably more quicker and explosive than Pac, whats the problem is he not staying in shape, you cant blame pac for floyd undiscipled retirement actions, floyds still in shapeLOL, this is hilarious, lets see your new response

ive never talked about not being in shape.. not once, ever... im not sure how you havent quite grasped onto what we are talking about yet here?

TIMING.

Something fighters LOSE when becoming inactive.

Using heavyweights as your example, only further solidifies that you don't understand, the faster the opponent, the better your timing has to be.

[Tha_Greatest]

your mocking yourself at this stage with refusal to answer my exact question.

so just forget it.

needing timing against a heavyweight and timing against a fighter like pacman, are two seperate things... you obviously do not understand that.

floyd is still in shape and hes quicker than pac,im never gonna let this hilarious subject go, i love this thread, just like i loved your classic yacht thread on horus(which i didnt let go)


nyahahahaha, dont worry man , be here, were homies, dont get angry, im not, im happy to be speaking with the great reedyckyaluss,LOL

dont let go, i beg you homie,LOL

[-Swizzy-]

Simple question.

I'm not asking if he's going to the next Ali, skill wise or accomplishment wise BUT do you think he'd eventually move up to HW?

not naturally. I think he'd have to do a lot of weight lifting and would have to take super weigh carb protein powder or something but I don't see him naturally growing into that weight class.

His trainer let him eat whatever he wanted for the winky fight and he still came in at 157. p-will is a physical freak of nature just like tyson was a freak of nature for the hw division.