Overated POPKINS - How is he a p4p great?

[Mr. Fantastic]

Thanks bro.

Here's the background image I took it from, it's on HBO's Youtube page.

Says I can't give you green k atm so when I can I'll hook you up. TY

[FasTHarD]

One thing i can say... B-hop lose his important fights... Jones jr., Taylor and Calzaghe...

[ßringer]

Other than Tarver, all those guys were smaller blown up WWs & JrMWs.

Oscar at least lost to ATG fighters, not just any bum.

Only ones saying it was a close fight between Hop & Cal were Americans and Hopkins' fans(majority).

You're full of **** and you know it.

Everybody knows Tito fit fine at 160. He destroyed a damn good Career Middleweight with a record of 32-1-1 in William Joppy. A guy Hopkins himself couldn't even finish off.

Winky He only became "blown up" after Hopkins smoked his ass.

If that's the case, Marvin Hagler's signature wins over Duran and Hearns mean **** too, huh?

Oscar, I'll give you. He definitely had no business at 160. But who's fault is that? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Oscar go to Bernard and say "I want to fight you!"?

Winky belongs at 160, again, he went to Hopkins and wanted to step to the throne because nobody else would fight him. Once again, not Hopkins fault.

Pavlik is bigger than Hopkins, they have the same reach, but Kelly is an inch and a half taller than Bernard, and had a broader set of shoulders. He won't be fighting at 160 for more than 2 more years. Mark my words.

And again, Kelly wanted Hopkins. He figured it'd be an easy fight at a catchweight, where he could get a legend's name on his win column, and make some serious money in the process.

Everybody picked Kelly to KO Hopkins in that fight. Everybody but a small handful of smart people here who saw it otherwise.

And once again, Hopkins whipped ass, and the excuses came out.

[dde91]

Going up to face him isn't what I call a *****.

I Never Disliked Oscar. He always took on Challenges.

But i said he cried like a *****, but he isn't one doe..

but you state that B-Hop Fought Smaller guys a lot

when Oscar was doin that early in his career.. Guys like Gatti, Chavez 2, Shane Mosley (MOVED UP 2 Divisions to fight DLH) Whitaker, and now Pacquiao

[ßringer]

One thing i can say... B-hop lose his important fights... Jones jr., Taylor and Calzaghe...

Tito wasn't important?

Jumping 2 weight classes to challenge the king of 175 in Tarver wasn't important?

17 years younger, undefeated, reigning Middleweight king Kelly Pavlik wasn't important?

[Mr. Fantastic]

You're full of **** and you know it.

Everybody knows Tito fit fine at 160. He destroyed a damn good Career Middleweight with a record of 32-1-1 in William Joppy. A guy Hopkins himself couldn't even finish off.

Winky He only became "blown up" after Hopkins smoked his ass.

If that's the case, Marvin Hagler's signature wins over Duran and Hearns mean **** too, huh?

Oscar, I'll give you. He definitely had no business at 160. But who's fault is that? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Oscar go to Bernard and say "I want to fight you!"?

Winky belongs at 160, again, he went to Hopkins and wanted to step to the throne because nobody else would fight him. Once again, not Hopkins fault.

Pavlik is bigger than Hopkins, they have the same reach, but Kelly is an inch and a half taller than Bernard, and had a broader set of shoulders. He won't be fighting at 160 for more than 2 more years. Mark my words.

And again, Kelly wanted Hopkins. He figured it'd be an easy fight at a catchweight, where he could get a legend's name on his win column, and make some serious money in the process.

Everybody picked Kelly to KO Hopkins in that fight. Everybody but a small handful of smart people here who saw it otherwise.

And once again, Hopkins whipped ass, and the excuses came out.

WHO THE FUCK IS WILLIAM JOPPY?? You mean the guy who beat up a 50year old Duran?? When has Hopkins been a Knockout Artist like Tito?

He fought Winky @ 170.....1motherfucking70!! If it were to of been at 160, I think it would of been a different story.

Also did DLH ever lose to a Clinton Mitchell or a dude who was only great in one division? No, he lost to some bad ass dudes, and 2 of those fights are suspect as hell, especially a dude cheated in one of them.

Kelly Pavlik is hyped due to his race. He's a great white hype(sorry not trying to be racist). So beating him isn't anything special.

[dde91]

One thing i can say... B-hop lose his important fights... Jones jr., Taylor and Calzaghe...

You mean he gets robbed in his close fights. *TAYLOR AND CALZAGHE* face it, the boxing world wanted new superstars, and thought that having taylor win those fights would make a superstar, but all it did was make him look bad. They robbed him both fights. And Calzaghe *BLAH* was a ugly fight, that Calzaghe looked horrible in, due to Hopkins style. Calzaghe hit maybe 4 flush shots the WHOLE FIGHT, and 2 of those where hard solid punches. Hopkins hit him Flush many many times. Calzaghe was hitting his arms with no pop or intentions behind the punches. LAME

and gets ducked his whole career from ROY JONEs for a rematch.

[Mr. Fantastic]

I Never Disliked Oscar. He always took on Challenges.

But i said he cried like a *****, but he isn't one doe..

but you state that B-Hop Fought Smaller guys a lot

when Oscar was doin that early in his career.. Guys like Gatti, Chavez 2, Shane Mosley (MOVED UP 2 Divisions to fight DLH) Whitaker, and now Pacquiao

I can give you the first one with Mosley, but the 2nd one, nope. Whitaker had like 10 fights at 147 BEFORE DLH MOVED UP to face him.

[MR ITALIAN]

Going up to face him isn't what I call a *****.

HOW many times DID DLH QUIT???? LOL HOW many times did BHOP? Better yet How many times Dis BHOP get HURT???

[dde91]

WHO THE FUCK IS WILLIAM JOPPY?? You mean the guy who beat up a 50year old Duran?? When has Hopkins been a Knockout Artist like Tito?

He fought Winky @ 170.....1motherfucking70!! If it were to of been at 160, I think it would of been a different story.

Also did DLH ever lose to a Clinton Mitchell or a dude who was only great in one division? No, he lost to some bad ass dudes, and 2 of those fights are suspect as hell, especially a dude cheated in one of them.

Kelly Pavlik is hyped due to his race. He's a great white hype(sorry not trying to be racist). So beating him isn't anything special.

That Was Hopkins first fight in the Pros, why you bringing up old ****.

And DLH fought Pacquiao at 147, and that is just as much as a risk as Winky moving up to fight Hopkins. If Winky would have won, nobody would have said anything. And Pacquiao moved up 2 divisions to whoop Oscars ass. That a good example of how a Catchweight could be good, or bite you in the ass.