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  • Steak
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    #11
    Originally posted by Slimey Limey
    And Botha also beat another Kickboxing legend Peter Aerts, and almost beat another kickboxing legend Remy Bonjasky.

    And all he used in his kickboxing fight was GOOD OLE BOXING MATES.
    people seem to think that more weapons=automatic win. but its not true. to throw kicks, your leg obviously has to leave the ground. if a fighter is so much as off balance in boxing, theyre going to get cracked hard by their opponent. how off balance do you think a fighter is when their leg is completely leaving the ground?

    another example...this guy aint a boxer, but he does nothing but punch in this fight.

    I mean...look how crude Sapp is. pretty much no technique, and all he does is swing wildly with his fists. yet he stopped Ernesto Hoost twice, and many K-1 fans consider Hoost the best kickboxer of all time.

    Im not saying that all boxers automatically pwn all kickboxers, thats absolutely not true. but straightfoward boxing ability can easily hold its own against the best kickboxing techniques, because throwing kicks can leave you very open to punches.

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      #12
      Indeed mate. Indeed.

      All hail the Boxing supremacy.

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        #13
        Originally posted by jkdking
        i am not being ignorant i am simply saying 8 out of 10 times a good kickboxer would beat a very good boxer because he uses more tools

        i mean if you look at some of the kick boxers today they have a decent boxing background that would help. a boxers not used to being kicked in the legs.

        i box and in the gym there is kickboxers/mma fighters and the boxers would not sparr with them its like meeting some one on the street with a nife just more tools
        look at my last post. kicking can be very effective, but it leaves you open as hell sometimes. you just need the right strategy(and enough skill, of course) to deal with a kickboxer.

        imo, the best style to have in a REAL street fight is being a track star...street fights aint fair, and Id rather get my ass out of there instead of risk getting killed/seriously injured+robbed.
        whats more, Id choose to have boxing skill over any other style against multiple guys.

        can you see any other style of fighter being able to pull that sort of thing off? kicks take too long to get off, and trying to grapple with 4 guys at once is pretty impossible.

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          #14
          if you talking about street fight it would be even more in favour of the kickboxer. take bruce lee's jeet kune do when trained right it is real badnews for a boxer on the street





          a boxer stands a punches chance.

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            #15
            Originally posted by blackirish137
            look at my last post. kicking can be very effective, but it leaves you open as hell sometimes. you just need the right strategy(and enough skill, of course) to deal with a kickboxer.

            imo, the best style to have in a REAL street fight is being a track star...street fights aint fair, and Id rather get my ass out of there instead of risk getting killed/seriously injured+robbed.
            whats more, Id choose to have boxing skill over any other style against multiple guys.

            can you see any other style of fighter being able to pull that sort of thing off? kicks take too long to get off, and trying to grapple with 4 guys at once is pretty impossible.
            There was another video of a guy boxing the fook out of 2 guys on a street. He was defending his girl.

            All hail to Boxing supremacy.

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              #16
              Originally posted by jkdking
              if you talking about street fight it would be even more in favour of the kickboxer. take bruce lee's jeet kune do when trained right it is real badnews for a boxer on the street





              a boxer stands a punches chance.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D1Vv...e=channel_page
              Not impressed at all mate.

              The 3 main effective fighting styles are Boxing, Kickboxing and MMA. That is real pure fighting. I respect Kungfu and such but it´s not real fighting.

              But of cource Boxing rules all.

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                #17
                Originally posted by jkdking
                if you talking about street fight it would be even more in favour of the kickboxer. take bruce lee's jeet kune do when trained right it is real badnews for a boxer on the street





                a boxer stands a punches chance.

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D1Vv...e=channel_page
                how do you figure? A washed up boxer holds his own against some of the best kickboxers in history, and thats with gloves on.
                surely, the lack of gloves would favor the man with the better fists(the boxer), wouldnt it?

                If youre saying that kicking to the balls+other cheap moves owns all other styles, then I agree with you. but knifes, guns and other weapons own all when it comes to street fights.

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                • jkdking
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                  #18
                  bruce lee jeet kune do is mma he never meant it to be a style

                  The president of the UFC has been frequently quoted as calling Bruce Lee the "grandfather of MMA"

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by jkdking
                    i am not being ignorant i am simply saying 8 out of 10 times a good kickboxer would beat a very good boxer because he uses more tools

                    i mean if you look at some of the kick boxers today they have a decent boxing background that would help. a boxers not used to being kicked in the legs.

                    i box and in the gym there is kickboxers/mma fighters and the boxers would not sparr with them its like meeting some one on the street with a nife just more tools

                    lol @ boxers being trained at mma gyms. those gyms that are pushing 150 a month and are full of pretenders, so i'm sure they attract the best of the best. lemme guess, the boxers are white dudes with tattoos and mohawks just like the suburban mma "toughguy" counterparts. why am i not surprised to see yet another one of these statistical "8 out of 10" posts with no backign whatsoever.

                    guys like this seem to be fine with comparing the luck of mediocore or past it boxers who are purposely set up against top tier kickboxers in their prime. flip the switch and guys like sefo, mighty mo, rufus, and others who think that since they have amazing hands in the k-1 ring it would translate well in the actual boxing ring. when they do decide to box, they aren't fed to the sharks, boxing as an organization is not looking to shame these guys the way their counterparts in japan are...they are matched up accordingly with men of equal or even lower levels. AND THEY STILL CANNOT BEAT THEM.

                    and why the hell is k-1 even being used as a measuring stick for the best standup fighters? their talent pool consists of a massive 2 dozen guys, most of which are the SAME GUYS FROM THE '90s. and when a roided up mma fighter like alistair overeem can come along and whip on their posterboys, when a nobody boxer turned k-1 fighter in virgil kalakoda takes buakaw and other k-1 max elite to war, when fat, washed up heavyweight pugilists like frans botha can defeat a handful of k-1 legends, and freeswinging sluggers like mighty mo and mark hunt can capture grand prix tournaments (who don't even know how to kick!!), it's hard not to laugh that saying top boxers wouldn't stand a chance at all when fighting under those rules.

                    back to sherdog with ya, buddy.
                    Last edited by Mistadobalina; 04-12-2009, 02:09 PM.

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                    • Slimey Limey
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by blackirish137
                      people seem to think that more weapons=automatic win. but its not true. to throw kicks, your leg obviously has to leave the ground. if a fighter is so much as off balance in boxing, theyre going to get cracked hard by their opponent. how off balance do you think a fighter is when their leg is completely leaving the ground?

                      another example...this guy aint a boxer, but he does nothing but punch in this fight.

                      I mean...look how crude Sapp is. pretty much no technique, and all he does is swing wildly with his fists. yet he stopped Ernesto Hoost twice, and many K-1 fans consider Hoost the best kickboxer of all time.

                      Im not saying that all boxers automatically pwn all kickboxers, thats absolutely not true. but straightfoward boxing ability can easily hold its own against the best kickboxing techniques, because throwing kicks can leave you very open to punches.
                      I see exactly what you´re saying blackirish. And the perfect example of that is Arlovski vs Fedor, arguably the best MMA fighter ever, getting dominated by pure Boxing skills of Arlovski. And when Arlovski let up for 1 second and stopped boxing, went for a knee but was KTFO.

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