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  • Spray_resistant
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    Your Rankings or Theirs?

    I was wondering, how do most of you rank fighters p4p or in individual weight classes? Do you accept what organizations and other publications decide? What about controversial fights? I don't know about some of you but where I perceive a fighter to be among other fighters depends solely on how I personally scored a particular fight. So there could be a hypothetical scenario where there were 3 controversial decisions where I disagree with all of the official scoring thus my rankings would be different from the "official" ones. I am bringing this up because I get the general feel that most people just accept rankings even if they disagreed with a decision(s) which put a particular fighter wherever they are above others in the rankings. Is my perception of other fans incorrect? How do you personally rank fighters?
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    I do My own Rankings(Click the link My RANKINGS in my sig), but based on official results.

    But most people go by the ring Magazine, specially their P4P list. Wich I dont do. Because P4P is based on you opinion on the matter!!!

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    • egreezy
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      A lot of people do that let decisions effect their personal rankings, but not me I could care less what a judge says.

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        Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
        I do My own Rankings(Click the link My RANKINGS in my sig), but based on official results.

        But most people go by the ring Magazine, specially their P4P list. Wich I dont do. Because P4P is based on you opinion on the matter!!!

        Yes and in a many cases so are fights.....important ones too.

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          I can usually agree wit Ring's rankings, but not to a tee. I'll have slight variations as to who places where. I think they do an ok job for the most part.

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            #6
            Originally posted by mangler
            I can usually agree wit Ring's rankings, but not to a tee. I'll have slight variations as to who places where. I think they do an ok job for the most part.
            I don't, I just have a problem with the ease they rank fighters higher than others based on razor close decisions. Also fighters having 1 fight in a new weight class jumping the rankings over good established fighters in that particular weight class.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Spray_resistant
              I don't, I just have a problem with the ease they rank fighters higher than others based on razor close decisions. Also fighters having 1 fight in a new weight class jumping the rankings over good established fighters in that particular weight class.
              I agree with this.

              I mean the have PW number 2 at 154? WTF? They have Pac at number 5 at WW, thats idiculous, and so and so.
              They have Nate Campbell number 10 at JWW, and the Mo FO has not even fought there yet!!!!!!1

              SO I agree with you!!!!!!!

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                Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
                I agree with this.

                I mean the have PW number 2 at 154? WTF? They have Pac at number 5 at WW, thats idiculous, and so and so.
                They have Nate Campbell number 10 at JWW, and the Mo FO has not even fought there yet!!!!!!1

                SO I agree with you!!!!!!!
                All of those are great points, especially the Pac example, I mean the fight with DLH was more of an exhibition and had no title implications at 147 whatsoever.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                  All of those are great points, especially the Pac example, I mean the fight with DLH was more of an exhibition and had no title implications at 147 whatsoever.
                  I think if you are a establish fighter in another division you have to beat people ranked in the Top 10 in that other division your fighting at, to be ranked.

                  And to be ranked top 5 you have to beat people in the top 5.

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                  • DarchinyFAN
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                    I generally do my own rankings. I look at rankings of bodies and publications also, because I think general perception is important, and not so arrogant that I rely totally on my point of view, as it may be biased (just like anyone elses can be) even if its subtle and not concious.

                    As far as viewing results, I do give some weight to how I see a fight (as opposed to judges, publications, and sometimes general consensus), but in the end the results are the results. So if the fight goes the distance, the rules say 3 judges make the decision on who wins. So I can ***** and moan about a decision all I want (I usually temper my outrage better than most on here) in the end it is still the result. As I said before I do use my own perception to give weight and place things in to context as far as giving someone credit for a win, but in the end it is still the winner that gets the credit.

                    We can't just say results didn't occur just because we dont agree. I mean what can we do, go back to the days when there were newspaper decisions?

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