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  • #31
    Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
    You guys are smoking if you think Miguel Cotto can train
    himself and beat a defensive, durable guy in the ring like Joshua Clottey. Clottey lost 2 fights only. One by a DQ and a 2nd close fight with an injured hand with a guy that beat Cotto by TKO? Cotto would be smart to get a good trainer that can teach him a new trick or two to go in the ring with. Clottey is solid & not to be taking lightly. Why do you think Cotto and his uncle had the beef/fight? Because Cotto knows how important and tough this fight is for him and wants to do things different to elevate his game. Evangelista is just not that guy and Miguel Cotto knows it. You guys should read between the lines more & be a lil more observant in my opinion.
    obviously you don't know what you're talking about

    i find it funny that you actually believe that you're posting facts and not inferences without any base at all

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    • #32
      Originally posted by J.B.moneY. View Post
      i wouldnt be suprised if isnt buddy mcgirt, or ****m.....i dont think it will floyd, sr. or roach........my gut tells me its ****m.....bob arum is loud but his not ******....he knows that pairing ****m with cotto is good for revenues
      ****m trains Sugar Shane, so that wouldn't work out.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by fdotorres View Post
        obviously you don't know what you're talking about

        i find it funny that you actually believe that you're posting facts and not inferences without any base at all
        OK, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about because I don't know them personally so why don't you tell me the real reason they had the fight? All I know is what is put out there and........

        1. Miguel Cotto wants to go to Florida to train to switch the game up.
        2. Evangelista Cotto doesn't want to leave Puerto Rico because he wants to keep the game plan the same.
        3. Miguel & Evangelista get into an argument because of this. While his uncle is screaming "I'M THE BOSS"
        4. Miguel fires his uncle and then gets hit in the nose because of this. They fight more than once.
        5. Miguel Cotto is looking for a new trainer as of now & Arum has a list already?

        What am I not getting from all this? Seems to me that Miguel Cotto wants to do his own thing and have a lil say so in his career, am I wrong by thinking this? If you know any other reason then please feel free to share it because knowledge, wisdom & understanding bridges gaps.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
          OK, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about because I don't know them personally so why don't you tell me the real reason they had the fight? All I know is what is put out there and........

          1. Miguel Cotto wants to go to Florida to train to switch the game up.
          2. Evangelista Cotto doesn't want to leave Puerto Rico because he wants to keep the game plan the same.
          3. Miguel & Evangelista get into an argument because of this. While his uncle is screaming "I'M THE BOSS"
          4. Miguel fires his uncle and then gets hit in the nose because of this. They fight more than once.
          5. Miguel Cotto is looking for a new trainer as of now & Arum has a list already?

          What am I not getting from all this? Seems to me that Miguel Cotto wants to do his own thing and have a lil say so in his career, am I wrong by thinking this? If you know any other reason then please feel free to share it because knowledge, wisdom & understanding bridges gaps.
          he wants to go to florida so evangelista doesn't keep an eye on him

          evangelista doesn't want to leave because he doesn't want to leave his other boxer, as well as his dying mother (he takes care of her) alone

          cotto already accepted to be the first to throw a blow at his uncle. they hugged and forgave each other and all but fought out of the gym again. cotto left and evangelista followed him in his car and threw the brick while they were driving. he broke the glass on the passenger's side

          they fought again in the apartment and evangelista broke a computer and about $6000 in other things in cotto's room

          cotto has huge drinking problems right now. his father and close friends ae worsening things. heck, look at cotto's body after marg and notice he's filled with tatoo's. his wife separated from his again because he doesn't stop cheating her, and evangelista knows what'll happen if cotto leaves PR: more alcohol and more women

          miguel's not taking his career too seriously, and this is coming off a puertorican. just ask champbox pr or any puertorican regular from the dorums that knows his **** and they'll tell you the same. cotto needs to be more serious about his personal life or he'll lose more than his belt

          edit: oh, and i'm sorry for my attitude on the matter when i replied to you earlier. it's just that i'm a little frustrated with this guy. i don't know him personally or anything, but i do know personally a very close person to him (closer than evangelista but not his blood, take a guess), and his uncle is not the first person that he's hit. the first time his wife left him was because not only of the cheating, but because he hit her. that's just awful, lets just say that miguel's got my respect as a awesome boxer, but that's about it
          Last edited by fdotorres; 04-10-2009, 04:03 AM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by fdotorres View Post
            obviously you don't know what you're talking about

            i find it funny that you actually believe that you're posting facts and not inferences without any base at all
            And do you believe that Miguel Cotto believes that he can step inside the ring on June 13th without a good trainer, without having been trained prior to the fight? Are those not facts? What am I missing? Or was it that I said Cotto and his uncle had a fight because of this? You come in and try to discredit my post without showing me the reason I was off? I'm
            reading people saying "Miguel Cotto's been training himself" & "He doesn't need a trainer to beat Clottey" What kind of nonsense is that? Even Cotto don't believe that himself. Who knows, if Cotto would of had a better trainer before the Margarito fight he could have possibly embarrassed Margarito alleged plaster and all.
            Last edited by GRUSTLER; 04-10-2009, 04:02 AM.

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            • #36
              he wants to go to florida so evangelista doesn't keep an eye on him

              evangelista doesn't want to leave because he doesn't want to leave his other boxer, as well as his dying mother (he takes care of her) alone

              cotto already accepted to be the first to throw a blow at his uncle. they hugged and forgave each other and all but fought out of the gym again. cotto left and evangelista followed him in his car and threw the brick while they were driving. he broke the glass on the passenger's side

              they fought again in the apartment and evangelista broke a computer and about $6000 in other things in cotto's room

              cotto has huge drinking problems right now. his father and close friends ae worsening things. heck, look at cotto's body after marg and notice he's filled with tatoo's. his wife separated from his again because he doesn't stop cheating her, and evangelista knows what'll happen if cotto leaves PR: more alcohol and more women

              miguel's not taking his career too seriously, and this is coming off a puertorican. just ask champbox pr or any puertorican regular from the dorums that knows his **** and they'll tell you the same. cotto needs to be more serious about his personal life or he'll lose more than his belt
              dude are u a stalker or something? how do u know all this? i know ur not cottos family or a friend of his so u must be bull****ting us. U sure seem to be on evangelistas side ever since this thing hit this forums. Cotto didn't swing first, evangelista did. Its been confirmed that cotto fired his uncle and evangelista went nuts. FACT after the firing evangelista busted cottos nose up. Evangelista was wrong. Cotto is right for dumpin his crazy ass.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                And do you believe that Miguel Cotto believes that he can step inside the ring on June 13th without a good trainer, without having been trained prior to the fight? Are those not facts? What am I missing? Or was it that I said Cotto and his uncle had a fight because of this? You come in and try to discredit my post without showing me the reason I was off? I'm
                reading people saying "Miguel Cotto's been training himself" & "He doesn't need a trainer to beat Clottey" What kind of nonsense is that? Even Cotto don't believe that himself. Who knows, if Cotto would of had a better trainer before the Margarito fight he could have possibly embarrassed Margarito alleged plaster and all.
                dude i don't think evangelista is a solid trainer, but he was a sort of "stop" sign to cotto and his brothers. his father isn't helping him, nor his friends. they're just worsening his **** up, and he's pretty messed up mentally right now

                no trainer other than your father has enough balls to straight you up enough that you choose to leave your bad habits for 3 months. that's what evangelista did, since he's the one that actually raised him (not his father)

                even if he isn't the best trainer, he could do what not even his father has done. i doubt that any trainer will do the same thing

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by fdotorres View Post
                  he wants to go to florida so evangelista doesn't keep an eye on him

                  evangelista doesn't want to leave because he doesn't want to leave his other boxer, as well as his dying mother (he takes care of her) alone

                  cotto already accepted to be the first to throw a blow at his uncle. they hugged and forgave each other and all but fought out of the gym again. cotto left and evangelista followed him in his car and threw the brick while they were driving. he broke the glass on the passenger's side

                  they fought again in the apartment and evangelista broke a computer and about $6000 in other things in cotto's room

                  cotto has huge drinking problems right now. his father and close friends ae worsening things. heck, look at cotto's body after marg and notice he's filled with tatoo's. his wife separated from his again because he doesn't stop cheating her, and evangelista knows what'll happen if cotto leaves PR: more alcohol and more women

                  miguel's not taking his career too seriously, and this is coming off a puertorican. just ask champbox pr or any puertorican regular from the dorums that knows his **** and they'll tell you the same. cotto needs to be more serious about his personal life or he'll lose more than his belt
                  Ok, so now I get the bigger picture. So if this is true then
                  you can disregard my post on this issue all together. I'm
                  looking at it from a professional, decission making point of
                  view and clearly this is a very delicate and sensitive family matter. Well, hopefully, Miguel Cotto gets it together because his career is still very promising and would be a shame for him
                  to go out like that.

                  PS
                  His Uncle could of handled the situation better.
                  Last edited by GRUSTLER; 04-10-2009, 04:13 AM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by cottothechamp View Post
                    dude are u a stalker or something? how do u know all this? i know ur not cottos family or a friend of his so u must be bull****ting us. U sure seem to be on evangelistas side ever since this thing hit this forums. Cotto did the swing first, evangelista did. Its been confirmed that cotto fired his uncle and evangelista went nuts. FACT after the firing evangelista busted cottos nose up. Evangelista was wrong. Cotto is right for dumpin his crazy ass.
                    you know i'm not a friend of any close family of his? that's as unproven as what i've said, so what's the point of your post?

                    cotto ALREADY admitted that he threw the first shot. it's in el nuevo dia. weird though, i said that here in detail a day before the newspaper confirmed it. hmmm, why would that be?
                    Last edited by fdotorres; 04-10-2009, 04:17 AM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                      Ok, so now I get the bigger picture. So if this is true then you can disregard my post on this issue all together. I'm looking at it from a professional, decission making point of view and clearly this is a very delicate and sensitive family matter. Well, hopefully, Miguel Cotto gets it together because his career is still very promising and would be a shame for him to go out like
                      that.
                      i agree, and it's a shame that it ended the way it did

                      hopefully cotto realizes that he's lost the guy that raised him and the mother of their children and stops whatever motivates him mentally to act this way. clottey will win it if he doesn't do a 180 and stays focused and serious

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